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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 128 points 5 months ago

Sent a note to my Senators and Congressman:

"ATF Form 4473 is required for any gun purchase and it has an entire section regarding things that disqualify a purchaser from owning a gun, notably line 21, items c and d:

“c. Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could imprison you for more  than one year, or are you a current member of the military who has been charged with violation(s) of the Uniform Code of Military  Justice and whose charge(s) have been referred to a general court-martial? 

d. Have you ever been convicted in any court, including a military court, of a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could have imprisoned you for more than one year, even if you received a shorter sentence including probation?”

Currently, we have, running for President, a person who has just been convicted, qualifying them under line d, and, who is facing 3 other indictments, qualifying them under line c.

If they aren’t qualified to own a gun, and, in fact could be arrested for “felon in possession” should he obtain a gun, how on earth does that allow him to be qualified to lead the armed forces as “Commander in Chief”? Why would he be allowed access to the “nuclear football” which is, really, the ultimate gun?

Can we please get some kind of legislation dealing with this? Either barring convicted felons from the office of the President, or, alternately, highly restricting felonious Presidential access to the military and high order weapons?"

[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 103 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm opposed to the idea that being charged with a crime should disqualify someone from office. Simply put, it incentivises putting people in jail for political reasons.

No, Trump should be disqualified for treason and insurrection. Of course, that's not happening either.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's why we have a trial by jury of peers.

An executive branch can issue a pardon, legislative branch can create a law making the crime no longer being a crime and impeach judges.

If those things are not enough, then we have a much more serious problem.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

Yes, we do have a more serious problem. Numerous federal judges have been appointed by a treasonous insurrectionist who committed election fraud to take office. The jury of peers will be less effective if there is an obviously biased judge like Cannon.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Judges can't put you in jail if DA doesn't bring charges and a jury won't convict.

Canon is trying to do the reverse, using anything she has at her disposal for the trial to not happen as she knows that this case is pretty much an open shut case.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

If being a felon bars you from owning a gun, why should a felon be allowed to command all the guns in the US military?

[-] neo@lemy.lol 28 points 5 months ago

To play devil's advocate: You could argue that in this case, the entire nation holds a vote over reinstating the right to own the ultimate gun.

The problem with that is, spin doctoring has gotten too good for this jury and you don't even need the majority to win.

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