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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by EnglishMobster@kbin.social to c/kbinMeta@kbin.social

I logged into Kbin today to see 18 notifications where the same guy banned me from all of their magazines for downvoting them.

I was only subscribed to 1 of those magazines, but it's still annoying to wake up to 18 ban messages from someone who got easily angered from a downvote.

(Side note: IMO, this is why being able to see downvotes is bad. Even if anyone could see them by spinning up their own instance, that's a lot of work compared to pressing 2 buttons.)

I've blocked the guy, but is there anything that can be done to stop this from proliferating across the site?

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[-] Blakerboy777@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

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@EnglishMobster @KairuByte

I appreciate that you're attempting to put this in formal logical terms, but I think you're a little out of your depth. Your interlocutor was simply asserting that you are discounting the validity of systemic critique. He didn't imply that you had any position whatsoever on guns. He said your argument, if applied elsewhere, would lead to absurd results.

A strawman would be saying that you denied criticizing systems is ever valuable, and it's all down to personal responsibility. That's somewhat similar to what you said, but by reframing it as an absolute rule, it would be much easier to counter.

You're somewhat struggling to formulate the syllogisms here. I'll present the interlocutor's argument more precisely.

P1. If an argument works just as well to justify doing nothing to address systemic causes of gun violence, it is a poor argument.

P2. Your argument works just as well to justify...

C. Your argument is a poor argument.

Here would be your original syllogism.

P1. A system of rules that prioritizes freedom should not be blamed for actions of people who purposely abuse that freedom.

P2. The person who responded this way to downvote was misusing free access to downvote information.

C. Kbin's system that prioritizes freedom is blameless for a user responding to downvotes.

And here's how we would apply that to gun violence

P1. A system of rules that prioritizes freedom should not be blamed for actions of people who purposely abuse that freedom.

P2. A person who commits gun violence is misusing that freedom.

C. The USA’s laws that priotize freedom is blameless for gun violence.

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