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Electric Cars Are Suddenly Becoming Affordable
(www.nytimes.com)
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But can they make them much much bigger? I hope so! It worked for ICE cars right? Just make them as big as a house and watch every day as they park north, south, east and west bound on the various freeways for the night.
Canionero!
I mean, the Kia EV9 seems pretty big. But I think you mean Ford Excursion big.... and man.... GM has a hummer of a truck for you. Also, no one is buying it.
The fact that VW's ID Buzz doesn't come with a Westfalia trim is a travesty.
They're already fucking huge. Every EV in the US is an SUV or pickup. You want a small electric commuter in 2024, your only option is an ebike.
Most of those 'SUVs' are what we used to would call 'station wagon' or 'compact wagon'.
Ioniq 5, Kia EV6, Mach-E, Model 3, Lyriq, and Blazer EV I would say aren't particularly 'big' but all are 'SUV'. You have Model 3 which is not even 'technically' an SUV. You also have the Leaf, the Niro EV, the Mini Cooper SE, which are all relatively smaller.
The models that are typical 'large' SUVs are relatively few. The EV9, the Rivian, maybe the Model X are the ones off the top of my head that are "Ford Explorer" big or larger. Yes the pickup trucks are blighted by the same "cosplay as a big rig" design language inflicted on the ICE pickups, except for CyberTruck which somehow managed to be even worse.
Ioniq would make my two car garage a one car garage.
Maybe these cars don't classify as SUVs by some metric, but they are definitely not small. Every vehicle in the US has gotten bigger in the last decade and EVs are no exception.
Yeah, because now they have to double as house if you lose your job
The Leaf is a reasonable size, the Ioniq 6 as well I think.
I drive a Leaf. I wish it was much smaller.
Well, there is the mini Cooper, but if you are considering the leaf a big SUV, that's hardly "big American" and would fit in with most four door vehicles for decades globally, certainly anything with four doors that could pass collision and pedestrian safety standards today.. to get smaller you have to go down to the little two door things, and for most people those are too impractical as a daily driver.
When I want smaller than my ⚡🚗🍃 Leaf, I ride my ⚡🏍️ Metacycle or my ⚡🛵 niu N-GT.
OK, I'll bring receipts. Literally none of the battery EVs sold in the US in the past 4 years even register as "small cars." Compare that to the rest of the world where they're nearly a quarter of the market.
I don't know what that graph is using as small, but the Fiat 500e has been sold here for quite some time. There is an electric Mini, an electric Focus, and the Bolt EUV is pretty small. SUV is sort of meaningless to define size alone when it encompasses things from the Bolt EUV and Model Y to a Cadillac Lyriq. Smaller ones usually classified as crossovers/CUVs.
Seriously, I just want an EV Sportscar. Give me something Z car sized, RWD and no extras.
EV Miata please. With 4 wheel drive and a power hard top convertible.
I would love this so much.... with the RF body cuz I think it looks sexier. Too bad Mazda is basically just anti-ev or rebadging other people's hybrid platforms.
The closest thing to that is the Ioniq 5 N, which has a mode that simulates shifting and pipes vroom vroom noises through the speakers to simulate revs.
It's honestly the only electric that's appealing to me, mainly because of the shifting and the vroom vroom. And even then it's too big.
Agreed on all points.... I'm glad the 5N exists, but it's not what I want.
RWD is silly on an EV. You can have four motors, one for each wheel, which will give you torque vectoring and other features. Trust me, additional Gs in turns are way more fun than skids.
Sports cars are silly. I know what I want. And it's a overpowered RWD sports car.
EDIT to add stuff... I already have an AWD ev, and a FWD EV. The FWD is terrible, not only does the high torque overpower the low rolling resistance tires, but.... just like an F1 car is crazy over powered, I want appropriate digital nannies, fat tires and all the stuff I had with my previous sports cars and motorcycles.
Regular AWD is not the same as EV AWD with independent motors. Four motors also allow you to turn your car into either RWD or FWD with a press of a button, but you'll have half the power ofc.
Kia ev6 gt. Seriously, go drive one. And even better than rwd, it's AWD (if you actually care about performance more than burnouts)
I have, and the Ioniq 5 N.... they are great.... I'm glad they exist, but not what I want.
EDIT: My friend has a bright red Model S plaid, and it was one of the most insane things I've ever driven. But being honest with you, The Model 3 Performance was more fun. Which is how I got to this point. Give me a 2-door, rwd over powered sports car. Please and thank you.
The MG cyberster seems promising. I'm drivng the MG4 and I rely like the car.
Sure... great... I'm in the states though, so... 🤷
Literally what I'm waiting for. I live alone, I have a 5km commute with crappy public transport. Too far to walk, bike in winter sucks, so some closed space for one or two people that can transport a bit of groceries is the largest I want. Smart sized, but affordable please.
Excellent news! Leaf, Bolt, 500e, Cooper SE
Anything that exists is ridiculously expensive. 20k+ for the cheapest option. Last I checked at least.
https://www.adac.de/rund-ums-fahrzeug/elektromobilitaet/elektroauto/kleinwagen-marktuebersicht/ 22k+ even.
Polestar 2, Tesla Model 3, and Ioniq 6 are all sedans.
Im legit waiting for the Renault Master electric van for my next campervan build project.