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How could a CEO of any company trade his own stock from the company and not be insider trading?
The fact they are allowed to control stock is laughable... At best, stock from the company you control should be in a blind trust (which would still be laughable but we can at least pretend)
The SEC has already proved itself absolutely toothless. Even if it was illegal, who would prosecute?
They have to give advanced notice before selling, they can't just sell stock on the whim.
It was clearly more profitable to break the law than to follow it.
So?... I am the CEO... I know our new line of highly anticipated space tentacle dildos are not going to be in stores by Christmas as expected, I give notice and sell stock before the public finds out and stock goes down
I also know, because of the delay, we are squeezing the Chinese manufacturer, so I will give notice and buy the stock in January knowing we are probably going to offer deep discounts to get those consumers back
How is giving advance notice any safety? unless the rules say they need to give 500 days of notice or something long enough there is no possible way to predict properly with ALL the information and power a CEO would have to manipulate the stock
I don’t want to defend CEOs here, but there is a code for in the USA, Rule 10b5-1, which sets out a CEOs stock trading plan.
The reason, if you’re not Elon Musk, is that most CEOs are paid in stock and so it’s inevitable they’re going to sell some. So they set out a plan to say I will sell X shares on X date and the market shouldn’t be spooked.
What Elon did here is sell 45 million shares, seemingly outside of any plan, which is insane. Usually they wouldn’t be offloading such a volume.
Selling a small amount of your stock doesn’t indicate you don’t have faith in your own company, but more that you want to convert some of your reward (pay) into actual cash.
I’m not saying the system is good, just that this is how it works.
Totally get it... which is why my comment was intended to mean "what the fuck kind of system is this"... not "Elon bad"... although, yes, Elon bad ;-)
If I'm a stock holder or potential buyer of stock and I read that the CEO is dumping billions of dollars of his own stock, I am going to think something bad is happening. Notifying the public in advance gives us more information to decide what we should do.
Sometimes, that information just tells us this is a scheduled dump of a small percentage, which is normal and expected. Sometimes it is a huge dump, which is unexpected.
They don't have to notify the public at all
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You're correct. They do have to notify the SEC, but not necessarily release that publicly.
The public will see the notice and sell their stock before the CEO can, tanking the price
The rules do not specify the public should be informed at all
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