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submitted 5 months ago by Blaze@reddthat.com to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

Following the other thread (550 upvotes and 366 comments at the moment: https://lemmy.world/post/16211417), one of the complaints that people had what that some communities only exist on lemmy.ml and don't have alternatives on other instances.

Let's discuss this and see if we can organize together.

I suggest to have one topic per comment so that is is easier to discuss.

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[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 11 points 5 months ago
[-] rglullis@communick.news 6 points 5 months ago
[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 3 points 5 months ago

Creating the community isn't the issue, usually it's finding moderators

[-] rglullis@communick.news 4 points 5 months ago

Don't worry about it for now. I will do it until someone steps up for it. Also, don't forget that I am actually working on tooling to make this job easier, so having any type of growing community would be an excellent way to find out the real pain point for moderators and work on the solutions.

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 3 points 5 months ago

When I said moderator, I meant someone to bring people to the community as well ๐Ÿ˜…

[-] rglullis@communick.news 4 points 5 months ago

For that, I really have no answer other than "help with fediverser, stick with one community, and post as much as possible in the promoted communities".

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago

No but I mean practically now, is anyone going to promote that new community to !jellyfin@lemmy.ml? Or do we expect people to hear about it by another mean?

[-] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 5 months ago

Or do we expect people to hear about it by another mean?

Yes. Fediverser will help newcomers. Posting content in the "new communities" will help those already here. Everyone browses by all anyway, so the best way to promote new communities is by putting content there.

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago

Is it visible from other instances in the All feed? I just tried on my SJW alt and the community couldn't be found

[-] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 5 months ago
[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago

It is now, but what I mean is that if we expect people to see it from All, we need to sub to it from accounts on the biggest instances.

That's what I did for !imaginary@reddthat.com a few days ago.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah, it would take one person on the bigger instances to do it. We can promote them in !newcommunities@lemmy.world and things should get bootstrapped.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 3 points 5 months ago

It is now, but what I mean is that if we expect people to see it from All, we need to sub to it from accounts on the biggest instances.

That's what Lemmy Federate (formerly known as Lemmy Community Boost) does.

FYI: I am currently crafting a.post on discoverablity.

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 3 points 5 months ago

Nice, I've had mixed experiences with that tool in the past, I'll comment on your post

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago

Yes, I am.noy 100% sure if it is still working but if you have anything to promote it's worth a go.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I mean, if your qualification for moderator includes "Not abusing powers to defend garbage extremist politics" then we currently have two communities that each have zero moderators.

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago

Not sure if I got your comment correctly, are you implying that @rglullis@communick.news is going to power trip on the newly created !jellyfin@poweruser.forum, or do you mean something else?

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

No, just an implication towards the old lemmy.ml version of the community.

What I mean is, moving from a bad situation to an equally bad but improvable situation is still a good move. It might be better to have a small, unmoderated community than one governed by "pretend" moderators.

That said, if the above comment was pointing out a need to fulfill, as opposed to decrying the attempts at community replacement, then you could disregard my snide remark.

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 3 points 5 months ago
[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 2 points 5 months ago
[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 4 points 5 months ago

Sorry to bring it to you, but https://lemmy.film/ has been down for probably six months.

What is the issue with dbzer0? It's literally an instance with the largest piracy community of all of Lemmy

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 3 points 5 months ago

When I think of db0 I think of piracy or AI, Jellyfin is a media manager, when I think of it, I think of TV, film and self hosting.

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Well, I'm pretty sure none of the Jellyfin users stream their vacation movies

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 3 points 5 months ago

At least one does. But needless to say, there's lots of legally owned content sitting on many NASs all across the world.

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago

https://libretechni.ca/ is also down on my site, is the site supposed to be up?

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 5 months ago
[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 3 points 5 months ago

Oh nice! Only one admin though

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 2 points 5 months ago
[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago

If he decides to shut down the project, or something happens to him, the server will probably go down with him.

See vlemmy.net, lemmy.film, iusearch.fyi, and so on

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 3 points 5 months ago

Aha, makes sense. Though my beloved tf went down and that had multiple admins at one point.

[-] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

Single admin instances are fragile instances. One person is a single point of failure.

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 5 months ago

But if the primary admin buggers off with the hosting and/or domain, doesn't that kill all instances?

[-] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

Not if the instance has a backup admin who can take over hosting, domain, etc, which most large instances do. Very small instances usually have a poor bus factor.

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 0 points 5 months ago

Yep, I guess its having an outage. It's been fine for weeks.

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 2 points 5 months ago

Who downvoted this? Why? ๐Ÿ˜ตโ€๐Ÿ’ซ

[-] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 5 months ago

I can easily create a community for jellyfin on https://selfhosted.forum, but I'd be more inclined to do it on https://poweruser.forum.

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