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submitted 5 months ago by merompetehla@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I'm your regular end user. I use my computers to edit text, audio and video, watch movies, listen to music, post and bank on the internet...

my main computer uses now debian 12.5 after abandoning xubuntu.

For my backup notebook I have several candidates:

  • Simply install debian 12.5 again, the easiest choice.

  • Install linux mint, so I get ubuntu but without them throwing their subscription services down my throat. I'm unsure about other advantages, as ubuntu is debian based, maybe the more frequent program updates? Kernels are also updated more often than with debian as far as I know. Do you know of other advantages?

  • Go for FreeBSD: this might require a learning curve, because this is an OS I've never used. Are commands that different from debian?

other more niche linux OSs seem too much a hassle and I guess won't be as supported as the main ones.

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[-] kbal@fedia.io 30 points 5 months ago

Um... Debian? I may be biased, but sometimes I think half the "which distro" questions I see are specifically designed to get me to say Debian. It's unclear why you think that more frequent updates would be an advantage.

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago

More up-to-date packages can be an advantage. One, they may have features you need. Two, there may be compatibility issues. This is especially true of dev tools and the graphics stack. The packages in Debian Stable are not that old yet but they will be.

[-] merompetehla@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

It’s unclear why you think that more frequent updates would be an advantage.

kernels: I forgot the command to compare both but ubuntu/canonical releases kernel upgrades more often than debian. To a newbie like me this means ubuntu/canonical reacts to security flaws and fixes stability bugs that get discovered faster than debian. Updated hardware support is also a plus.

[-] comicallycluttered@beehaw.org 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Kernels shouldn't be a problem if you have the backports repo enabled (you can enable it during install, otherwise add it to your sources.list).

You do first have to specify that you want the kernel from backports (or set up APT pinning preferences), but after that, it'll keep that specific package updated whenever you run sudo apt upgrade and there's a newer version.

If you installed the generic Linux image on installation (usually the default, I believe), the quick way to upgrade is basically just:

sudo apt install -t bookworm-backports linux-image-amd64

It should be noted that backports is not Sid or Testing, it's stuff built specifically for current Stable that people might need newer versions of for various reasons (e.g. hardware, limited feature updates that don't affect the base system, some development libraries, etc.), so it's quite small in the amount of unique packages it has. Like, you can get newer LibreOffice packages, but you're not going to get Plasma 6 or whatever.

Right now, the kernel is on 6.7 in backports, while Stable is on 6.1 and Sid is on 6.8. So you'll get them a tiny bit later, but that's in terms of days/weeks, rather than, you know, the usual two-ish years (not counting security updates).

Side note: if you want all this enabled by default, Spiral Linux is just straight up Debian Stable with a bunch of firmware packages preinstalled for easier installation on a variety of hardware and the kernel is updated via backports by default, so you could give that a shot as well.

It's not like "a distro based on Debian", it is Debian, but set up with conveniences for modern desktop users and also sets up btrfs + apt snapshotting by default, similar to OpenSUSE Tumbleweed's process.

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