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[-] kromem@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

So when accounts of torture fit with the narrative you like, they are credible, but when they don't fit with the narrative you like, they are not?

Was the video of castration by Russian military of a detainee also just faked propaganda?

Was the UN report that Russian forces tortured prisoners to death also fake?

It's not exactly like this phone call goes against a pattern of behavior for Russian forces.

[-] jorp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

In time of war you'd do best to question news when it's reported only by one of the sides and not by an independent source. Maybe it's true, but militaries don't value truth during war.

I wouldn't trust the Russian military either

[-] kromem@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

“Almost every single one of the Ukrainian POWs we interviewed described how Russian servicepersons or officials tortured them during their captivity, using repeated beatings, electric shocks, threats of execution, prolonged stress positions and mock execution. Over half of them were subjected to sexual violence,” said Danielle Bell, the head of HRMMU.

And these are the accounts from the prisoners that were released.

[-] jorp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'm not denying Russian atrocities full stop I'm just wary of these kinds of very specific and evocative claims. It's "beheaded babies" level for me.

[-] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Well hopefully if you trust the UN about Israel you'll also trust it the same way about Russia

[-] jorp@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago

Lol I don't need the UN to tell me about Israel. At least Russia has had reasonable moments in its history

[-] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not an Israeli but according to some of our neighbors, we (Russia) haven't had any reasonable moments either, at least not lasting more than a few months. Pic related

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

using repeated beatings, electric shocks, threats of execution, prolonged stress positions and mock execution. Over half of them were subjected to sexual violence,”

Sooo... basically just how the Russian military treats it's conscripts in general.

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