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[-] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 42 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"Violence [is] The supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived." - Robert A Heinlein

[-] sturlabragason@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

https://www.britannica.com/topic/state-monopoly-on-violence

And nation states rob their subjects of this option.

Edit: can someone explain their downvote to me? I’m not advocating violence, only saying that nation states hold a monopoly on it.

Re-reading my comment, I kind of maybe was a bit agressive when I wrote it. Fuck it, take the power back.

[-] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Well yeah, that is the social contract. It's how society works.

[-] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Contracts are not something you are born into, raised to fit it’s clauses, and unable to opt out of.

Society is one thing, nation states another. They’re relatively new and not a great system IMO. I believe we can do better.

Decentralized autonomus scalable communities would be better.

To quote my own comment;

“I like to think of economies (and nation-states) as loosely coupled monolithic legacy systems.

Due to poor developer practices and lack of architecture, parts of these systems have poorly written functions that hog 99% of the resources. You would not try to patch or update such a poorly designed system because there is no way to correct all the myriad built-up legacy back-doors, bugs, privilege escalation vulnerabilities, etc. The systems have been completely corrupted and cannot be recovered. We would like to avoid shutting off the hardware on which these systems run (the human race).

So we slowly drain away processing power to power up a new properly designed scalable system.

This new system is intentionally designed to avoid all pitfalls of the old system. It purposefully avoids attempts at privilege escalation, resource hogging, and doesn’t allow bad coding practices. Through scalable architecture, we implement a modular and resilient system that is decentralized and federated. Better yet, this new system is written in a language that is incompatible with the old system; they can only interface via APIs specifically designed to minimally interface with the old and unsafe system.

Of course, you’re right, it’s not independent or tamper-proof, but we can sure as shit try to make it that way!”

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net -3 points 5 months ago

Seems like you read too much Engels.

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

I mean its totally accurate, Pretty much all countries today can trace their current borders back to violence, most land ownership traces back to violence, laws are one way or another enforced by the threat of violence....

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net -4 points 5 months ago

Anarchists don't seek authority, though.

[-] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 11 points 5 months ago
this post was submitted on 08 Jun 2024
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