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[-] jet@hackertalks.com 47 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You would be fine, you would need extra electrolytes and water.

120g of protein per day

36g of carbohydrates per day.

15g of fat per day.

You would lose weight, you'd be running at a calorie deficit. Assuming you had fat to start with everything would be fine. The protein levels are sufficient to maintain your muscle mass

You probably get bored of that food pretty quickly.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

You'd also need a vitamin. And if you're like me you'd probably want to break your keyboard in half and shove it down your throat until you can't see it anymore; cottage cheese is gross even before it becomes monotous.

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

if you’re like me you’d probably want to break your keyboard in half and shove it down your throat until you can’t see it anymore

Are you okay?

Edit: It's fine if the answer is "no".

[-] meekah@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Why do so many people hate cottage cheese? I love the texture and it tastes pretty bland, so you can just add some herbal salt and pepper to make it pretty tasty

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The only useful thing I’ve found for cottage cheese is pranking people.

Incidentally, if you rember the old plastic clad iMacs and powermacs from the late 90’s (with the clearish white plastic and “fun” color accents?)

Those power Mac’s incidentally had a space just above the PSU perfect for keeping a cottage cheese at the right temperature for getting foul.

Foul enough to clear out a computer lab for a week. (It was a boring class, anyway. I’m not sure they ever found the tub…)

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

we'd use it as poor man's ricotta back in the day when we were making manicotti. I'm not sure about the price differential, but nowadays it's easy enough to find ricotta and I'm not that poor.

[-] hellofriend@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Really? I've heard about rabbit starvation. Wouldn't cottage cheese be lean enough to suffer the same? Or is there more to it than that (e.g. type of protein, lipids, etc.)?

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 41 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You would not be getting enough bioavailable nutrients, but one month is not long enough for that to be a serious problem.

This is not a healthy balanced diet, you could not live on it forever because of bioavailable nutrients and the like. But as emergency food, it's fine.

If you did not have excess fat at the start of this diet, you would have trouble. There is not enough fat here to keep you going.

750 cals per day, assuming you need about 2500 cal a day, your deficit is about 2000kcals a day. 7700 cals per kg of fat. You would lose about 7.7kg of fat... If you maintain your original metabolic rate, but the body is adaptable, and it would reduce your metabolic rate while you went through this emergency diet

[-] hellofriend@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Ah, okay. What do you think might happen due to the comparative lack of carbohydrates? I don't imagine you could enter ketosis on this diet. Not enough fat. Would the body burn more muscle tissue in spite of the high protein intake?

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Ketosis is a metabolic state. It is the process by which your body converts fat into energy. Anytime you lose weight you have been in ketosis... Every night when you sleep your body goes into ketosis.

What people commonly refer to as a ketogenic diet, is just a shorthand way of saying, eating food that maintains your fat burning preference.

So this yogurt diet, will absolutely put you in ketosis, for no other reason than you're at a caloric deficit per day.

I am not aware of any reason your body would cannibalize your muscles when you have sufficient protein. People often do month-long fasts, as long as they maintain their metabolic rate/activites, they don't lose significant muscle mass. But this is a function of your stored energy, so if you don't have enough fat to make up for your metabolic deficit, that energy will have to come from somewhere as a priority to keep your brain alive. Don't put your body in that position. The science around fasting, is highly contentious, so you're going to get wildly different viewpoints on this.

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 10 points 5 months ago

But this is a function of your stored energy, so if you don’t have enough fat to make up for your metabolic deficit, that energy will have to come from somewhere as a priority to keep your brain alive. Don’t put your body in that position.

So what you're saying is I should keep excess body fat, just in case I need to eat only cottage cheese for a month?

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 11 points 5 months ago

The vast majority of people are already prepared for the cottage cheese challenge!

I think the absolute minimum body fat percentage people should have is about 5%men 10%women give or take. Probably much higher. For for 50 kg person, that works out to about 7 kg of body fat minimum.

However, if you want to be drought and famine resistant, you need to get those numbers up!

[-] hellofriend@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Oh okay, thank you for the clarification. I wasn't aware of that. So I guess while you're sleeping, as long as you haven't eaten recently before falling asleep, then you'll enter ketosis, right?

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Ignoring glucogen reserves in muscles, the body doesn't really have a way to store glucose, which is the energy you get from eating carbohydrates.

So all of the glucose except for like 5 g in the blood, get stored as fat. You burn through that 5 g in your blood depending on your metabolic rate and activities in a few hours. This is why a lot of people who are eating carb heavy diets get hungry every few hours, The hangry advertising campaign. They're just running out of glucose.

Anyway, unless you're waking up every few hours at night to snack, your body has to enter ketosis to provide energy while you sleep.

The liver does have the ability to make glucose from fat, called gluconeogenesis, but it would still be burning fat to do that.

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

rabbit starvation

FYI: For those that have never heard of the term:

Protein poisoning (also referred to colloquially as rabbit starvation, mal de caribou, or fat starvation) is an acute form of malnutrition caused by a diet deficient in fat and carbohydrates, where almost all bioavailable calories come from the protein in lean meat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_poisoning

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 10 points 5 months ago

Small tangent - I know this is going to probably be an internet fight, but there is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate for human health.

Bioavailable nutrition is in the fat in the meat, and in the organ meat such as liver.

The Eskimos never died from a lack of carbohydrates.

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

The text says deficient in fat and carbohydrates. I'm pretty sure they mean it only happens when you don't have enough of either, not that carbs are an essential nutrient.

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