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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee to c/meta@lemm.ee

There's a new one suddenly popping up in my feed but obviously the reports are being "resolved" by the mods of that community. They suggested to me that I block their community but I will not because that is how you get a cesspit of an instance. How do we report disinformation communities straight to the admins?

Edit: the admins did remove the community in question so I'm going to take that as the official stance on disinformation communities and also assume that any type of community (right wing, left wing, or other) that are intentionally spreading disinformation will be removed. That makes me feel much better about the situation since this type of thing is pretty much guaranteed to pop up again.

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[-] Madbrad200@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They suggested to me that I block their community but I will not because that is how you get a cesspit of an instance

Who cares? Just block it and carry on as normal. What other people do doesn't effect your enjoyment of lemmy at all.

Better yet, curate your own homefeed with subscriptions.

[-] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

This is a terrible attitude to have towards disinformation.

We should defend the quality of the information we get through social media. It has considerable influence over how we perceived the world and live our lives.

[-] Madbrad200@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

There's disinformation all over the internet, I block it and get on with my life.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Disinformation affects first hand those who don't block it. It then sways them and affects everyone through democracy.

Putting blinders on doesn't solve the issue

[-] kryllic@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

Are you implying liberals are too stupid to know misinformation when they see it and will become alt-right because of that? Give the left some credit lol

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

I don't think I implied anything

[-] shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

Do you think it’s possible you or someone else might be wrong about something being disinformation?

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Of course there's no absolute certainty of what is or what is not.

Does it matter to that?

[-] shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, I think it matters greatly when making decisions to completely remove or silence other people. What’s your process for determining if something is disinformation?

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What do you mean to remove or silence people?

How do you approach solving the issue?

[-] shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Removing or silencing people as in removing users or communities from lemm.ee if their content is determined as disinformation.

And I don’t think communities or users with strong opinions should be removed or banned from a general purpose community. I think vote manipulation, brigading, repetitive automated posting, multiple accounts, and other ways of manipulating the system should be prohibited.

So, how do you personally determine that something is disinformation, and how to you distinguish this from your own opinion? I’m genuinely trying to understand your perspective here

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I don't have a personal stake here. I'm just trying to understand the different solution possibilities to this known existing issue, be it at a global or a platform level. Or is the idea to do nothing and let the adverse effects happen?

[-] shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I’d say defining disinformation and discussing how we decide something is disinformation are some great step towards finding a solution

I think disinformation is an opinion specifically towards the content or subject of a post or community. I don’t think we shouldn’t be removing users based solely on someone’s opinion of their content. If you’re suggesting removing users from this instance that share disinformation, I’d love to know how you conclude something is disinformation

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think I've suggested anything. More of an observance of how things are

[-] shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Ok, this thread was about blocking/removing disinformation so I figured that’s what we were talking about. Do you have any stance on disinformation and how it should be handled on lemm.ee then?

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It is harmful and letting it be is not a good idea

[-] shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Do you think we should remove communities and users that share disinformation?

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Removing users would drive them deeper into their echo chambers Removing communities might be one way to reduce echo chamber mentality and harm Disinformation content should be removed but that's an endless fools errand

Alternative possibilities?

[-] shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Are you sure your definition of disinformation is absolute truth? Maybe someone else comes along with a slightly different definition of disinformation. Which one of you makes the calls?

Why do you think this should be a global policy regulated by several admins as opposed to something we can each do ourselves?

Edit: Hey if you’re downvoting, consider contributing to the discussion by sharing why you don’t like this comment

[-] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

No I don't think I have absolute truth. I'm not the person in charge of this instance, so I don't have a process for choosing between definitions.

It should be a global policy because admins are the ones with tools to deal with systemic disinformation campaigns. Also, some people can generally do it for themselves but nobody can always tell when they're being manipulated.

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