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[-] Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 61 points 5 months ago

I am by no means top at anything I do with a computer, but I do find it said that I tend to know more than almost anyone I interact with in real life when it comes to using computers.

For the most part the way I became proficient with a computer has come down to reading comprehension. I would like to see studies showing the overlap of computer proficiency, and reading comprehension.

[-] shikitohno@lemm.ee 49 points 5 months ago

In my experience, it's not just a lack of reading comprehension, but often some combination of an utter lack of curiosity, laziness and defeatism. Many other things, like video games, have escaped the realm of being reserved only for nerds and gone mainstream, yet computers remain something people just constantly assume are hopelessly complicated.

I know for a fact my mother-in-law can read just fine, as she spends most of her day reading novels and will gladly spend the rest of it telling me about them if I happen to be there. Yet when it comes to her cell phone, if there's any issue at all, she just shuts down. She would just rather not be able to access her online banking in the Citi bank app for weeks or months at a time, until one of us goes and updates it for her, rather than reading the banner that says "The version of this app is too old, please click here to update and continue using it." and clicking the damn button. If anyone points this out to her, though, she just gets worked up in a huff and tells us "I'm too old to understand these things, you can figure it out because you're still young." She will eventually figure these things out and do them for herself if nobody does it for her for a while, but her default for any problem with her phone is to throw her hands up and declare it a lost cause first. I've seen a lot of people have the same sort of reactions, both young and old. No "Hey, let's just see what it says," just straight to deciding it's impossible, so they don't even bother to check what's going on.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

It's the retarded UIs, I think. I function the same way when having to use Windows, Android, typical applications and sites. It's an undertaking to use any of them to some end.

Now why do these people give up and offload it to us "sufficiently young" - they think these UIs are retarded for them, but work for us. Like "you wanted such things, you help me with them".

And they can't accept that such things are aimed at them and not us.

[-] ian@feddit.uk 3 points 5 months ago

Yes. When I use particularly badly designed software, where you know it's from a lazy, cost cutting money grabbing company, and you know you need 8x more clicks, and where any miss-step, means you have to start again, I have great trouble motivating myself to use it.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

Same. Then I go online and read how CLI's are too hard to use and Linux popularity would be better were its UI's more similar to Windows and MacOS, and that it's become easier to use now, and that Gnome is on the edge of making that the reality.

By the way, the best time for Linux UI's (easiness of use too) was IMHO when FVWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker and Afterstep were still commonly used, and when people had a separate user (and possibly separate X session in Xephyr) for Skype, because it was the only proprietary program on their machine and hygiene\suspicion dictated isolating it. Look how far we have fallen.

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