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You seem to have missed the simple fact that there are cars produced prior to that. And the fact that the hardware announced there also wasn't enough on its own. There were additional changes in 2019 to a newer computer necessary for FSD. My 2018 Model 3 has that hardware, but I cannot get FSD without a computer upgrade. Not to mention even older vehicles that can't even accept the new computer hardware.
So yeah, not ALL Teslas in the road are capable of FSD.
Dude, talk about missing the point. I wasn't the one who claimed all Teslas after 2016 were capable of Autopilot. ELON MUSK made that claim.. you aren't saying I'm Elon, right, because that's pretty insulting.
Elon made the claim. He called his product Autopilot and then Full Self Driving. He got up on stage and released videos claiming the cars could drive hundreds of miles without an intervention. He released faked videos. He's truly a con man for the ages.
Dude, no, you're trying to change the point. My claim wasn't time-specific, your link has nothing to do with the actual conversation in this comment thread. I said that the average person thinks ALL Teslas are capable of FSD, and that is factually incorrect, there are Teslas on the road that cannot do FSD,
Your link is about cars made after X date, you're changing the conversation to fit the narrative you actually want. Even if we go by that date though, that's what they thought at the time, it was later determined that yet another computer upgrade would actually be required, hence the 2019 date for actual FSD compatibility as it was rolled out to the closed public beta. Vehicles made in that middle ground get the computer upgrade for free if the owner purchases FSD.
My car, made in 2018, cannot do FSD without a computer upgrade, so it is not capable of FSD as is despite being made after 2016. The rest of the hardware is compatible but it needs a newer brain. Some vehicles older than mine (older Model S/X) aren't even able to get an upgraded computer and will NEVER be FSD capable. So factually, not ALL Teslas on the road can do FSD. End of conversation.