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[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago

What the fuck is this shit? Motherfucker, I lived through these elections, and this is some boomer revisionist bull shit.

Al Gore lost because he couldn't differentiate himself from god-damned George W Bush. He was too centrist to encourage the left base to show up for him.

Kerry lost because he couldn't articulate his better vision for America, and was too centrist to encourage the left base to show up for him.

Hillary lost because she didn't even try to reach out to the left base. She was too centrist to beat Donald Fucking Trump.

Three ostensibly intelligent leaders who lost their elections to fucking morons because they thought that they didn't need to try very hard to reach out to progressive voters.

Any one of them would have been a better President than what we got, but the fact that they all lost means they did something wrong. It isn't the fault of the voters demanding better, it's the fault of the party failing to meet the demand.

[-] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago

I think this election is a little different in that we have a known threat that is significantly worse than the alternative. It's not an exaggeration to say that Trump is a threat to democracy and to anyone that doesn't want to live under religious law as interpreted by the Republicans.

The other candidate is harm reduction presidentially personified. That is the best choice we actually have, and the consequences for disincentivizing left leaning or undecided voters is much worse than Bush, and that's saying something.

Vote against Christ flavored dictatorship, and encourage others to do the same. And not some impossible 3rd party bullshit.

[-] cyr0catdrag0nz@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago

If either third party gets even 5% this election, they qualify for federal funding and could have a greater influence in the future. Third party votes are ESSENTIAL when the establishment wins any other way.

[-] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago

I would agree with you if the stakes were not as dire as they are now. If any of those 5% of votes are taken from traditionally Democrat voters, you might get that 3rd party its federal funding, and you might just see them in the next presidential election, but you may not have the right to vote.

Republicans have stepped up their campaign against voting freedom, and they have a whole plan on how to seize control of our government and give dictator authority to their president. Project 2025 is going to irreparably harm us if it comes to fruition.

Try this when we are not so disastrously close to religious extremists seizing control.

[-] blazera@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

Try this when we are not so disastrously close to religious extremists seizing control.

Thats the trick to it, thats never not going to be the case.

[-] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

The Bush's were tame compared to this shit, and Jr even thought God talked to him. McCain turned out to be a relatively decent human being, and it got him Republicancelled.

You could be right that we will never see a moderate Republican again in our lifetime, but I fail to see why doing ANYTHING that would help their campaigns is a good thing.

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