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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee to c/meta@lemm.ee

There's a new one suddenly popping up in my feed but obviously the reports are being "resolved" by the mods of that community. They suggested to me that I block their community but I will not because that is how you get a cesspit of an instance. How do we report disinformation communities straight to the admins?

Edit: the admins did remove the community in question so I'm going to take that as the official stance on disinformation communities and also assume that any type of community (right wing, left wing, or other) that are intentionally spreading disinformation will be removed. That makes me feel much better about the situation since this type of thing is pretty much guaranteed to pop up again.

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[-] shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

A few things wrong with what you said:

  1. You did use the word “misinformation” in the comment I was replying to:

We’re talking about a community that is dedicated to posting misinformation and apparently trolling.

  1. The definition of misinformation I used in my previous comment includes “deliberate deception” and matches your definition of disinformation, so if I’m not mistaken we are actually on the same page there and my points are still relevant to the discussion.

I totally agree there needs to be a good way to report communities to admins. I also think vote manipulation, making multiple accounts, brigading, automated posting, and other ways of manipulating the system to push an opinion should be prohibited.

What I don’t agree with is removing communities for “disinformation.” What’s happening is:

  1. Those community mods banned you because you posted “disinformation”
  2. You want the community removed because they are posting “disinformation”

I think there’s an inherent flaw with our definitions of truth here. If you say one thing is truth, and some community mods say another thing is truth, how do we decide which voice is silenced on lemm.ee?

This might be a hard one to digest, but please genuinely consider it: I think we are mis-labeling opinion and calling it truth without realizing it. Calling your own opinion absolute truth is a very dangerous game to play when you are making decisions for other people (read history to learn more). And, like I initially pointed out, moderating an entire instance based on opinion doesn’t seem to line up with a “general purpose” instance like lemm.ee in my opinion. Do you think that’s plausible?

I know you said you don’t want to discuss further, but it’s hard to learn from you if you don’t converse or answer questions. If you have specific thoughts or disagreements on any points I’ve made, I’d appreciate hearing them

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