78
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 12 Jun 2024
78 points (93.3% liked)
Linux
48376 readers
895 users here now
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).
Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.
Rules
- Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.
- No misinformation
- No NSFW content
- No hate speech, bigotry, etc
Related Communities
Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
That's strange. I downloaded it just now and converted a video. It's not in
/app/binbut in/usr/bininstead. I know for a fact it relies on the ffmpeg binary inside the code. You can even access it usingflatpak run --command=ffmpeg org.gnome.gitlab.YaLTeR.VideoTrimmer.Eh, I've never felt that way. Even on my Arch system, I only have 15 packages from the AUR and 2134 packages installed from the repositories. But it's probably smaller than you're used to if you're coming from Debian or Fedora.
That library is designed for development as far as I'm aware. I noped out very quickly when looking at the documentation for using ffmpeg libraries :) I think that's why VideoTrimmer relies on the binary instead of the library too.
I take a different view: I don't trust anybody, but I read the PKGBUILDs and understand them. They're often not complicated. I don't particularly like the AUR much anymore though for this reason.
I did try this for a while but I couldn't get used to it. And programs can bypass it anyway with
/home/$USERif they're feeling vindictive, though I haven't run into any yet. It'd definitely be nice to have more complete isolation one day.100% yes. Be nice to have that in Toolbox one day.
I'm with you there. I can understand PKGBUILDs but everything else is just far too complex for me. Or unfamiliar. The docs for packaging Fedora RPMs is scary as hell.
To be honest, it's mostly
apt. I really hateapt. I am also not very familiar with how the system is configured. It's very different from Arch, anyway. I can just never feel at home on an Ubuntu system even in a container, but I do run it on servers.I've downgraded my "hate" to "it's fiiine".
I really have no idea what to expect. But if I never need to use
rpmfor querying or whatever again I'll be happy.Seems you can use all the libraries too as if they were binaries. Updated my Fedora post.
Currently testing how to run the freedesktop.org runtime with home permission, this would allow to not give any app permanent home permission.
But wait, you can run apps with different permissions temporarily, right?
Like
flatpak run --filesystem=home org.app.nameThat is the best way but not scalable for most users. You need access control and trust. On COPR I add the repo of an individual and only get packages from them.
This is not about isolation, even though this should totally be done. Its just about preventing dotfile mess.
Scalable, you know. A system should stay vanilla in 20 years, in 40 years.
In the end it would be
I mean we are not there yet, but close.
Apt is an ugly mess and nala might be python bloat but it looks fancy and automates things. Now that it runs on Debian 12 I installed it everywhere.
Yeah or add curl instructions to projects like librewolf, to avoid needing "oh and on atomic distros you dont use 'dnf blabla' but download it directly".
Even though I like my COPR command...