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An idling gas engine may be annoyingly loud, but that's the price you pay for having WAY less torque available at a standstill.

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[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 94 points 4 months ago

It's exactly this. Convenience. We've become accustomed to how convenient it is and don't want to be put out.

On the other hand, it's super convenient to never go to a gas station again, and to wake up to a full tank. So if you drive less than 60 miles a day, and have acess to another car for long trips, an electric is even more convenient.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 45 points 4 months ago

That's basically 90% of every car owner.

It's one of those things where people feel like they're going to take a road trip every weekend, but most people are just using their car to commute to and from work and maybe take one or two longer trips per year. The time saved by not having to stop at a gas station throughout the the year is less than the additional time taken at a fast charging station for the rare road trip.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 months ago

Unfortunately, people tend to buy vehicles to best accomplish 1% of their driving. I live in the suburbs and almost every house has a giant pickup parked in front. Not because people are in the construction business and need to haul a lot of stuff, but because once a year they might go to Home Depot and it feels good to put their two bags of mulch in the back.

[-] Fondots@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Part of the problem is not having the money or space for an extra vehicle.

I drive an SUV, I don't particularly like driving an SUV, I get a lot of use out of having a larger vehicle, I'm an avid DIYer who makes frequent trips to the hardware store to pick up lumber and such, I have a lot of outdoor hobbies and usually end up being the one who drives so I'm carrying gear for several people, I don't exactly go off roading, but those hobbies sometimes take me on some poorly maintained, deeply rutted, muddy roads and 4wd has gotten me out of some jams, I occasionally drive onto the beach to go fishing, usually find myself towing a small trailer a couple times a year, and I'm an essential employee that lives in an area that gets snow with a weird schedule that usually has me commuting before the snow plows have gotten through everywhere.

But even though I probably get more actual use out of an SUV than most people, most often I'm still only driving about 20 miles or less a day, on paved roads, in weather that doesn't require anything more than working headlights, wipers, and tires that aren't totally bald.

If I had the budget and parking space I'd probably have the cheapest base model EV I could find for most of my commuting and small errands and save the SUV for my days off and when it snows. That's not the case though.

[-] potpotato@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

But 100% of the time they feel like they’ve got big ‘ole balls.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

It took me a while to take the plunge, but I'm never going back

[-] piecat@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

The last time I heard someone say that, they were taking about bidets, and it was life changing.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

If I had to choose, the bidet was a bigger life improvement. Both are great though.

[-] mortalic@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Or just use the clothes dryer circuit... Charge the car overnight.... Get all the range.

[-] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

You don't even need the clothes dryer circuit, the vast majority of people don't drive enough in a day to need anything more than a standard 15a outlet

[-] zeekaran@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

Tech Connections showed this pretty well.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

it’s super convenient to never go to a gas station again, and to wake up to a full tank

But, to make that possible, you basically have to have a "gas station" at home. If you own your own house you can modify it to install a charging spot. If you rent, you might not have that option.

[-] Robert7301201@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

All EVs come with Level 1 chargers that plug in to your standard house outlet, NEMA 5-15R. If there's an outlet nearby you can charge your car.

That can still be difficult for apartment renters, but there's no need to modify your house.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

All EVs come with Level 1 chargers that plug in to your standard house outlet.

Sure, but if you use those it takes a very long time to charge. Like, from empty it can take 40+ hours to charge a battery EV from empty to 80%. If you're using your car to commute and your commute is anywhere near the max range of your car, that isn't a viable option.

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