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[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 63 points 6 months ago

Star Trek should be required viewing for all world leaders.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 55 points 6 months ago

That sounds like it would be a good idea, but there is a strange but significant cadre of right-wing Star Trek fans. I think they just pay attention to the pew pew space battles and ignore everything else or something.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Even worse, I've run into fans who think the Terrans had the right idea.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Considering the Terran Empire ended up being conquered, this tracks with them idolizing other losers, like Nazis and the Confederacy.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 6 points 6 months ago

I honestly see why. While I love star trek, it has a very strong power structure "with the right people in power", as if power itself wouldn't corrupt people. The admirals may not always be right in the beginning but they accept their wrongs and have no bad intentions and the heroes are always celebrated by the establishment.

This can be understood as "this is the perfect world where even authorities are good" or as "I told you, authorities are the good guys". I, as a left libertarian, prefer Farscape (and still watch every star trek show)

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

Exactly! The TOS/TNG era are "benevolent authoritarianism" and conservatives, of course, see themselves as the good guys. "If things only went our way, our society would be perfect, just like Star Trek!"

I think Edington said it best. Paraphrasing, "[The Federation] are even worse than the Borg. At least they tell you about their plans for assimilation. You're more insidious you assimilate people I think they don't even know."

[-] match@pawb.social 0 points 6 months ago

I, as a left libertarian, would probably end up in the Maquis

[-] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

What''s left liberterian even means?

[-] frezik@midwest.social 0 points 6 months ago

They're the OG libertarians. The right explicitly stole the term and celebrated doing so.

In short, they're a branch of anarchism.

[-] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

So neo liberal economic is just a right wing spinoff of libertarianism?

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 months ago

I wouldn't call it a spinoff but rather a ripoff. There might be few parallels but basically left Libertarians are against all hierarchies, including the state. Right Libertarian are against the state and want to build state like structures but privatized.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 2 points 6 months ago

I can't help bit notice all these "debate me" chuds talk exactly like Gene Roddenberry's writting style. Why does every conversation or discussion devlove into "the logic of your argument" "you misunderstood the logic of what i am saying".

[-] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

IMO conservatives are either Klingons, Ferengi, or deluded enough to think they'd be chosen to join the Q Continuum. And Libertarians think they're Romulans or Cardassians but aren't actually that organized or clever.

[-] match@pawb.social 2 points 6 months ago

Khan-accerationists?

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Sure, but I still genuinely believe the Gospel of Picard would have a net positive effect. Far moreso than the bible, which a good portion already have read.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

That type of person will arrive at the conclusion "see, it's okay to do eugenics and have nuclear wars, since humanity will turn out okay anyways".

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