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This is probably the best thing about lane assist on modern cars.
When changing lanes without a turn signal, the wheel resists a bit.
I have actually seen people I drove with be annoyed by it. I absolutely love it, because it is only annoying if you don't use your turn signals.
Absolutely not. It's fucking dangerous. The one time I drove a rental like that, I went through a construction area downtown, and it tried to steer me right into a construction fence when I was following the yellow temporary construction lane markers that were going around the fenced off area.
Surely you can disengage it when the markings are bad, right?
If you know it's there & how to disengage it, yes. As I said, this was a rental with a dangerous system enabled & no warning. I disengaged it right after this incident.
Fair enough.
You're just a shit driver. It does not prevent you from steering the vehicle.
A car nudging you towards an accident is dangerous, even if it's not forcing you into an accident.
An unnecessary distraction that needs active attention in a chaotic situation is a bad thing, bad driver or not. And yeah, there are many bad drivers out there. Cars should be designed to be driven by bad drivers, not armchair experts.
Why not just have expert bus drivers and as few cars as possible by having proper driving tests. (looking at the US)
Yeah, but that's a whole 'nother topic.
I live in a country with proper driving tests, but most drivers (myself included) are still shit at driving. Even professional bus drivers are limited humans.
I agree, but still fewer drivers should be an improvement for safety and climate and one day maybe most roads could be replaced by train tracks with bike lanes on either side.
Fair enough, I like doing that too.
What if their arms are just really weak, you do have to turn the wheel slightly more than normal.
If their arms are so weak as to be unable to overpower the lane-assist nudge, I really hope for everyone's sake, that they are not behind the wheel of a moving vehicle. The 'nudge' isn't strong in any sense of the word. You can overpower it with two fingers if squeezed tight. My semi truck had lane and steer assist, which nudged a little harder to steer the truck back into the lane, but that, too, could be overcome with a tight two-fingers grip.
I disagree, it's annoying in general.
If I need to go around, say, a mail truck parked on the side of the road, the steering assist in our work van starts to rumble or shake or whatever it does. If there's construction, you guessed it, it doesn't understand that I have to cross over the line to continue driving, and if I have a turn signal on, the cop/worker directing traffic is going to expect me to go that way.
If a car is driving in the opposite direction and starts to ride/cross the double yellow lines, me moving over causes the vehicle to resist and fight me, potentially putting me into an accident because I didn't think to put my turn signal on in a split-second situation.
My car should not be able to, idk what word I'm looking for, override me? People need to take driving more seriously and stop handing off their responsibilities to a computer system/sensor that can not only fail, but also doesn't understand real world applications.
Lane assist fucking hates narrow and or curved roads, too. I turn that shit off when I'm driving my parents' car. I really hate the steering wheel trying to decide what's best for me.
I love the lane assist on my car. It does resist me a little bit in the situations you describe, but it's not a strong resistance. Just enough to get my attention if i do it by accident, but not enough to hinder me going where i need to go.
Now i'm curious what the lane assist parameters look like for different makes and models...
Anecdotally, I've heard people say they almost got into a crash because of lane assist, especially with the white/yellow temporary lines. But that does depend a ton on the car.
I have to agree that if you have to turn, you should be able to turn, lane assist be damned - we're not yet at the level where a car can accurately judge 100% of the road situations. But it's probably a good thing we're moving into a future where crossing lanes without turn signals feels like a virtual bump on the road.
On a Hyundai, there's a very annoying beeping pretty much coinciding with the wheels hitting the lane markings - which IMHO is too little too late, and besides around here most lane markings are made to rumble so it's not like an additional audio signal is needed.
On my ex'es brand new car, that feature got turned off after very few kilometres, and has stayed off ever since.
Mine works like yours, it'll jottle me a bit but if I want the car to go there it goes there, I don't need special efforts to make it happen. It also has the auto-brake thing in case you're about to rear end someone and I've set it to high to see it working but even that I only managed to make it beep and flash but not actually brake yet, looks like it would only do it pretty late. I think most people complaining about this are having an "back in my days" moment tbh, but maybe there are indeed cars out there where the implementation is more invasive.
I drove a Honda Pilot with lane assist, and I hated how it jottled the steering wheel. It felt dangerous to me how much it resisted, even if it's not really that much.
I currently drive a Honda Fit with lane assist, and I love it. Literally use the lane assist every time. It beeps and has a warning on the dash about leaving the lane, and maybe it even has the same amount of resistance, but it feels a lot safer/natural
I think I just don't like the steering wheel "rumbling/jottling" or whatever, because it's like a false tactile feedback. I'm sure I could adjust to it, but it's not the best implementation imo
Also, the auto-brake thing (is amazing and should be standard) doesn't come on until you are wildly close (and the distance that it engages, seems to be speed dependent). So you'll really only see it engage if you're about to be in a wreck, or you're really ballsy trying to "test it"
Suicide assist is horrible. Around here there is no middle of the road separator, to narrow road. So it tries to hit head first the traffic in the opposite way.
Country roads here are like that.
I just turn it off.
Like a light switch
Just go click
It's a cool little Mormon trick