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Ah Bernie, what could have been...
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This is all Hillary and the DNC's fault and I will never fucking forgive them.
DWS. I know it wasn't just her, but I will forever curse the name of Debbie Wasserman Schultz
European here. I'm curious, what did Hillary and the DNC do exactly that is unforgivable?
You can think of it like nepotism in the DNC. Bernie was the more electable candidate. The candidate the liberals and the left preferred. They went with Hillary anyway and they underestimated Trump's electability in the actual presidential race. Essentially giving Trump the presidency in 2016.
You can watch all of their surprised Pikachu faces during Hillary's concession speech. They had a huge glass ceiling they were going to shatter all of this stuff. And it all fizzled out.
From what I understand, the DNC made a Faustian deal with the Clinton Foundation. They were in debt up to their eyeballs during the Obama Administration and the Clinton Foundation offered to pay off their debts in exchange for making Hillary the nominee and replacing key DNC staff with Clinton Foundation personnel.
You can tell they're telling the truth because they didn't mention how the vote tallies have Hillary beating Bernie by an even wider margin than she beat Trump by in the popular vote.
Figures the people still moaning about Bernie losing twice now would think other people voting is the DNC putting in a fix, these loons have actually said that votes shouldn't count and we should have counted individual donations instead. Because if anything says democratic process, it's a literal donor class literally buying the candidate they want over the candidate who got more votes.
Honestly I was in jail when all of that happened so the news I got about it was the misinformation that was originally leaked by the media. Misinformation that came from somebody that worked at the DNC and was backed up by Elizabeth Warren..
And you could have corrected the narrative without being a total fucking dick about it like you just did.
Instead I looked it up and educated myself. And you came out looking like an asshole.
Yeah how dare I be an ass about a fight I've been having with fucking children since 2016 over their shock and awe that having other plans on primary day doesn't win your preferred candidate the nomination.
You aren't owed being corrected gently when you step into a fight that's been going on for almost a decade now.
You didn't try to correct me at all.
You shamed me and acted like I wasn't even there.
Go read your comment.
I'm talking to you now. You tried to publicly shame me because I didn't know something?
Because I was misinformed by the media?
Because I've been in jail and didn't have the same access to information that you did?
I was speaking in good faith based on information that as far as I knew was true. You're the first person that has ever pointed that out to me and if you would have done it in a gentler manner you would have won somebody to your side and made a friend instead of somebody that's going to tell you to go fuck yourself
Have Bernie Sanders as their public enemy #1
Not-an-American, but what I heard was that BOTH DNC and RNC do not choose the more "popular" candidate. The parties choose the candidate that their "donors" actually want. In RNC I think they straight-up just rig the process and push their choice.
But in the case of the DNC I believe the DNC "promises" to choose the candidate that is the most popular. BUT DNC "donors" have what is known as "super-delegates" or some bullshit ( Extra Votes for Money ? ) Soooooo Hillary went around ALL the states "buying" up all the super-delegate votes........ so in-effect Bernie lost even before the voting had even started! And on top of all that I think that so many candidates ran at the same time that it split most of Bernies votes down the middle which might have been the strategy engineered by DWS and the DNC.
Those are not the only problems with the DNC..... I believe that Hillary and DWS and DNC ran political ads PROMOTING Drumpf because he would be "easier" for Hillary to beat. So effectively the DNC and Hillary were campaigning for Drumpf! !!!!
I think 'Murica has a lot more serious problems and a lot more roadblocks but breaking the fundamentals of democracy by rigging votes and installing puppets seems almost comical and farcical if it wasnt so damaging and dangerous.
Yeah how dare Hillary and the DNC respect that more people voted for her instead of applying EC logic to make Bernie win despite him losing by a wider margin than Trump lost the popular vote, and how dare the moderates still be more popular than Bernie to the point that all it took was there being only one in the primary field for Bernie's chances to be "sabotaged".
Harry Potter and the magical thinking of Bernie bros who still can't get over other people not voting the same way they wanted them to while also not voting themselves.
Bernie deserved better than fucking all of you.
Not going to argue with you, but super deligates are why Hillary was the candidate and super deligates are bullshit and the definition of everyone is = but some are more = than others.
That why the delegate counts actually tilt the scales in Bernie's favor?
In any case, any argument you could make about the superdelegates basically amounts to "look what you made me do!" for not going to vote against this supposed she devil everyone had a violent hatred for. Y'all didn't vote. You just didn't. I'm saying this as a guy who did vote for Bernie, there was no fix, you all just abandoned Bernie at the one place it matters and have been trying to shift blame for your own slackoff asses since.
Bernie deserved better than every last fucking one of you!
Millions more people voted for Hillary Clinton.
If it wasn't for the undemocratic caucuses, Bernie would have lost earlier in his primary run.
I'm not a big fan of centrist democrats but Lemmy (and most of internet) is not representative of the broader electorate.