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submitted 4 months ago by girlfreddy@lemmy.ca to c/news@lemmy.world

The first presidential debate is done and the aftermath has not been good for the incumbent, Joe Biden.

Some Democrat politicians and operatives reportedly texted CNN commentators with hopes that Mr Biden, 81, would step aside. Some floated the possibility of going to the White House and publicly stating concerns about him remaining as candidate.

But if Mr Biden were to drop out, it would be a free-for-all. There is no official mechanism for him or anyone else in the party to choose his successor, meaning Democrats would be left with an open (Democratic National Convention (DNC) in Chicago from August 19-22.

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[-] HejMedDig@feddit.dk 5 points 4 months ago

So you'd rather have Trump as president?

[-] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

No... That's why I want biden to step down.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Don't bother answering the people who ask that, it's a gotcha question with an assumed premise. It's not meant in good faith it's just supposed to derail any criticism.

[-] HejMedDig@feddit.dk 2 points 4 months ago

Not voting is a vote for the one you agree the least with, so saying that you won't vote for Biden is analog to a vote for Trump.

I totally agree that Biden is not fit for the presidency, but if I were an American, I would still vote for Biden, just to limit the risk of ending up with Trump back in charge

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

No. It's an abstention. We have a word for it and everything. Stop spreading this propaganda.

[-] HejMedDig@feddit.dk 2 points 4 months ago

True, that's it abstention, but It's also logic

11 people have to decide if they want to eat pizza or pasta the next 4 years 5 vote pizza 4 vote pasta 2 definitely don't want pizza, but are not that fond of pasta either, so they don't vote

Hence those who didn't vote end up with their least desirable outcome. Enjoy 4 years of pizza

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Maybe the least desirable outcome is the Democrats continuing to be ineffectual in anything not hyper focused on corporate profits?

Maybe these elections are actually on the basis of millions of people and it's the politician's job to be electable. Otherwise we might as well start the monarchy with a census every two years that includes a pre checked box to support the king.

[-] HejMedDig@feddit.dk 4 points 4 months ago

Maybe the least desirable outcome is the Democrats continuing to be ineffectual in anything not hyper focused on corporate profits?

If that's your least desirable outcome, then by logic you should vote Trump.

This election is unfortunately not about which president you would prefer, but about which one you want to keep away from the White House

And when I, as a person living in Europe are trying to get people to vote, should tell how much people outside of the US are apprehensive of the potential outcome of this election

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

That's what they said last time. Biden also said he'd do a single term when his age concerns were brought up back then.

Now look at where we are. Clearly just blindly voting for them isn't working.

[-] HejMedDig@feddit.dk 2 points 4 months ago

I would definitely also prefer the timeline where Bernie won the 2016 election

And I can only sympathize with those that feel both candidates are a bad choice, but in the bigger picture, I would view one a lot worse than the other.

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