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"Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point." —Joe Biden, 1977
This quote is accurate and has been verified. Biden was expressing concerns about busing as a means of desegregation.
Do you think he may have possibly changed his views on such things in the intervening half-century?
Robert Byrd started in the KKK and died a champion of civil rights, endorsed by the NAACP.
In 2020, during a radio interview, Biden said "if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black"
Also in 2020, Biden stated that "unlike the African American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly different attitudes about different things
He is correct about both things. Trump hates black people, so you are a traitor to your race if you vote for him, and the black community's culture is based on American culture while Latino culture is based on the cultures of countries across the Americas and the Caribbean.
So you have no business calling others racist. Thank you for this.
Please point out what I said that was racist.
Those statements are clearly racist and you saying he is correct. Don’t worry, you are one of the good racists bruh, so it’s ok.
You keep using that word. I do not think that word means what you think it means.
Believe it or not, declaring a statement to be racist and not actually explaining what is racist about it doesn't make it racist. I can declare anything you say as racist. That doesn't make it so.
Why are you even here arguing if you do not know what racism is? Are you trying to redefine racism?
I’ll explain it for you. Now is your time to stop digging a deeper hole for yourself.
Those statements make sweeping generalizations about the African American community implying they are not diverse and lack varied perspectives.
There.
Implying every black person in the US is African American is unironically racist lmao. You're right thing is fun.
I am implying no such thing. American culture is quite diverse and, as I said, it's based in American culture.
There are 33 Latin American countries, most of them with diverse cultures themselves.
It is just not possible for the Black community to be more diverse than the Latino community- unless you're going to argue that those 33 countries all have the same culture.
Stop deflecting. His statements imply otherwise and you said he is correct.
Where did his statement imply otherwise? Please show me exactly where. You didn't show me exactly where I was racist, maybe you can show exactly where he was racist.
And it's interesting that after I explained it to you, you didn't say anything like how what I was saying wasn't actually racist.
So I guess you believe Latin American culture is homogeneous.
You have different kinds of racism, Joe is the old uncle who means well but isn't all that bright. The thing is, he updates his view unlike your other uncle, Don, who is more concerned with updating their library of racist jokes.
Crazy to think both were adults during segregation.
I mean the second one is just objectively true, the black community tends to vote as a bloc while latine communities can vary in a variety of ways because they're basically as diverse as the rest of the US as a whole is. Even from within the same country of origin there can be significant splits in opinion, northern and southern mexicans pretty frequently vote for different parties, because northern mexicans tend to be from longer established communities and families while southern mexicans tend to be much more recent newcomers.
Meanwhile the split in the black community is mostly just some dudes who got sucked into the manosphere and literally everyone else facepalming at their bullshit.