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With ever more Supreme Court fuckery going on I'd like to help comrades in my local org be better secured against potential breaches.

Ideally I'd like to recommend 1-3 options that meet these needs:

  • Easy to use
  • Can be used on phones as well as mobile devices
  • Doesn't retain any network traffic data

Any ideas on what options we have?

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[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago

IDK if we're at this level of need right now. But I want to start people on the path to doing these things as a habit.

I could see our org doing mutual aid to help undocumented immigrants hide, help women cross state lines for abortions, etc. in the near future. I want us to be ready to cover our tracks before we need to.

[-] farting_weedman@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

I’m saying this not to belittle or hurt you, but to make my point clear:

You are not capable of what you’re saying. It is not possible to safely include people in your group while doing what you’re saying.

If that sounds like too much of an assumption, if it sounds like I’m being hyperbolic, think of this completely not yanked from the local headlines amalgamation of cop activities in the surrounding handful of rural counties over the last year:

You’re doing something, an opponent shows up to agitate. There is violence, the police show up. Did everyone leave their phones at home? Does everyone’s phone have biometrics turned off? Is everyone trained to resist interrogation? Has everyone changed login credentials from data breaches? If their phones are Apple, do they have lockdown and advanced data protection turned on? are they not carrying the recovery code on their person? If they’re using an android phone, is it running a trustworthy non manufacturer install? Are they capable of figuring out if an android version is trustworthy? If they’re all in some trustworthy encrypted chat, are they treating it like there’s someone screenshotting?

A vpn wouldn’t help at all if any one of those things were wrong.

Just recently, a peaceful talk about Palestinian resistance was interrupted by Zionists and violence broke out. Are all your people 100% prepared even when it’s a seemingly friendly environment?

Don’t organize online. In person or bust. Don’t take computers with you unless they’re wiped clean except for the bare minimum that is needed to do the job they’re gonna be used for. A phone is a computer.

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

I understand completely and I am aware that there are levels of security my little org is not going to realistically meet.

For anyone reading this planning more "sensitive" things: loose lips sink ships, and follow the advice above!

My org is what I would consider more of a pipeline for disaffected Democrats to become baby leftists and eventually, maybe, do something cool for the community. As such the threat is more from right-wing activists disrupting events or trying to doxx members, get people fired, etc. So I want folks to start getting the basics locked in now so that if they radicalize more it will be easier going from "I have a password manager and VPN" level secure to "drop the phones in this Faraday bag before entering this meeting".

[-] farting_weedman@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

That’s smart.

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