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Behind the ‘last firewall’: Hill Democrats scramble to save themselves
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If only folks had gotten off their tail and voted for an alternate candidate rather than sitting on the couch whining about our political system and making memes...
You can't just vote for an alternate candidate. That's a non-viable strategy. In a fptp system (and one that requires owner money) ,you are reliant on party leadership to put forth worthwhile candidates. Democrats should have started grooming the heir apparent on Jan 21, 2020.
True, I'm more referring to the primaries in 2016 and 2020. You get all too many around here clamoring for 3rd party protest votes or disengagement.
Even with the sketchy goings on during those two, if there was an overwhelming vote for Bernie (who's no younger mind you, but it's an alternate that appeals to a different demographic) it'd be a tough sell to go against that even if the party did get a court to agree they could.
Even without party backing though, if there was a particular person that people took to en-masse the rules don't preclude them from office or appearing on national ballots. Look at Trump, people at first wrote him off as a joke, similar to the other times he ran before, now he's a major threat to both parties.
Oh, I completely agree. This is way too complicated to fit into simple comment chains. There will be books upon books about this (assuming we're still allowed to write books in the future).
I know the word "rigged" is overused in politics these days but I'm not sure how else to describe the method the RNC and DNC use to select candidates. We have a matchup of historically unpopular individuals who were both President already, and yet most feel as though there was an inevitable quality to each receiving his party's nomination.
I live in a primary state where party registration is arbitrary and I could have easily participated in the process for either major party (just providing this background lest I be accused of being something I'm not). Problem is, by the time it rolls around to my state, the momentum of previous caucuses and primaries has all but secured the nomination already and my ability to influence the process is effectively zero.
The DNC and RNC have created a system of managed coronation disguised as some sort of democratic process. And what's worse is they now set the precedent of rigged debates designed to exclude meaningful alternatives. If they have a second debate they'll probably make up something about minimum Twitter mentions or shoelace color to purposely exclude RFK and other 3rd party candidates again.
I asked in another thread what candidate other people canvassed for and maybe they shouldn't be complaining if they didn't canvass for anyone. I didn't canvass for anyone and said so. I got one person who said they canvassed for Bernie Sanders. And they have my respect for that. But mostly other than that, I just got downvotes. It didn't surprise me, but I think it kind of proved what I was saying.
We got Biden in 2024 because not enough people, myself included, did enough to get anyone else. Frankly, in my case, I wasn't offered an alternate candidate who threw their hat into the ring (Bernie did not) and who I thought would be electable. I don't have an issue canvassing for a candidate who hasn't announced they would run, but I personally don't think it's a good use of my time.
I didn't find anything about Doug Burgum or especially Marianne Williamson that made me feel like I should work for their campaigns. They didn't convince me to put the effort in.
To be clear, Biden didn't convince me to put the effort in either.