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Sen. Mark Warner Forming a Group Of Democratic Senators To Call On Biden To Drop Out
(www.washingtonpost.com)
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I mean, Trumps going to win if we stick with Biden.
There are two things I'm confident in, in this order:
Biden won't be the next president;
Biden won't be the nominee.
The idea that we should stick with a candidate who has effectively already lost this election because shifting candidates would cause "splintering" is ignoring the fact that the party is already splintered. If it wasn't, Biden wouldn't be losing like this.
Brace yourself, bc based on discussions here and what he's said, I think Biden will remain the nominee. Yes, that should chill you to the bone, if it causes Trump to win. However, everyone seems too afraid to buck the system right now - e.g. Harris is not well-liked already, by anyone it seems, and stands to gain the Presidency handed to her by Biden, so she's not going to risk that sweet deal by trying to remove him. If he did so willingly, which he's already said that he won't, then that would be one thing, but otherwise...
I mean he's going to say that until he isn't running any more. I'm not clutching my pearls.
If I do start clutching my pearls, head for the exits. I'll be very loud about it at that time.
I think we're not going to have Biden as the eventual nominee; I think whomever we end up with will do fine (as long as they are on the right side of the Israel/ Gaza issue).
What if there is no right side to that issue? "From the river to the sea" means that both sides want to genocide the other, except that one side is actively doing that now, but give them half a chance and the other will do it right back.
But if we withdraw our support, gas prices go up, and thereby Republicans win the House and Senate. We only have the almost-majority now bc they went down bc of the deals Biden made e.g. with the Saudis who killed Jamal Khashoggi.
Arguably Biden may somehow be grandfathered in, but any new nominee is going to have to take a stand on the issue with some kind of position or another. And thereby they are going to get eaten alive, no matter what position they take.
I suddenly see why Biden is taking the Presidency to his grave - it may well be literally the only option left open at this point.
Edit: otherwise, why would you have added that last bit, "(as long as they are on the right side of the Israel/ Gaza issue)" - with all that is going on, it's not enough to be a Democrat who can stay awake during a sentence, as we've all been saying, now suddenly they also have to have the perfect stance on the Gaza issue too? You know, the "correct" (leftist) one, which also somehow is the one that will convince people who might otherwise vote for Trump to pick this new nominee instead? (so thereby not leftist at all, or else they will stay with Trump)
remember that campaigns are weird. Even in the primary, you have to maintain momentum for as long as possible, and frequently if you look like you're about to fold, you're done. So he's going to be 'In It to Win It" right up to the end. Then he folds and every one is going to be like "well this was sudden." when really, it's not sudden at all.