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Idk. America is still pretty racist and even more sexist.
Sexist enough that a woman who no one likes won the popular vote in 2016. ....
Popular vote dont get you shit here.
She lost the race in swing states where "independents" choose the winner. If she had been "John Clinton," with every single bit of the politcal baggage and none of the sexist baggage, I guarantee she would have cleared that 80k vote hurdle in those 3 states.
She lost swing states because she decided she didn't need to campaign there.
That's a red herring. The original comment was "America is sexist," and that's a statement based on quantities.
So yeah, the popular vote matters here.
Joe would have won that election, let alone Bernie. It would have been a different world today
I remember the conservatives I worked with hated H. Clinton for "wanting to take our guns away." I told her (it was a white 20 year old girl I was talking to specifically in this group) that whole idea is untrue.
Clinton didn't lose because of her horrible treatment of Africans, her philosophy that abortion should be a states' right issue, because she is a woman, etc. She lost because the "Dems want our guns" propaganda. Conservatives are a simple breed.
I think people underestimate how much the Clinton name helped her even when the sexism hurt her. Beyond maybe Michelle Obama now, I can't think of any other woman out there likely to perform as well as Hilary did. During the race, I heard more than one person make comments along the lines of "If she's in trouble, she can just call her husband". She definitely got a lot more points from the Clinton name than she lost for being a woman. It's a sad world sometimes, yall.
I personally think Bill Clinton's brother Roger could have won that race even with all his controversies and the fact that he has zero qualifications.
It’s a sad but fair point
Did you forget that Hilary Clinton won the popular vote?
I will vote for freaking Training Day if it keeps Trump out of office.
Then you're giving an edge to Trump.
Thanks for nothing.
The Democrats cannot fail us.
It is only us who can fail the Democrats.
You're saying here that you either wouldn't vote, vote independent or vote for Trump.
Which one of these Trump-helping options is it?
You will help Trump win. Is there a scenario with your actions in which Trump is not being helped if you don't vote for Biden?
And notice that I'm not saying "vote for Biden, goddamit!" I really am curious.
Doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.
Might want to spell her name correctly, then.
So you’ll misspell a write-in vote for an idiotic Russian plant. Sounds like you’re really someone to listen to on this.