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How many goddamn wars over this do we need
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this post was submitted on 06 Jul 2024
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Are you trying to debunk the idea that Nazis are bad?
I'm trying to debunk the idea that the US is fundamentally anti-fascist.
Nobody ever said it was. This was a call for anti-fascism.
If you want to argue down a call for action against Fascism, go for it, but don't act surprised when people call you a Fascist for it.
If there's a real point you wish to make, it's lost in way you've presented it. Instead of being a miserable scold, you could have added to the conversation, but since feel that everything you post needs to be in the form of a rebuttal, it comes across as though you are trying to completely invalidate OP's meme rather than add little color to it.
Everyone here already knows about America's troubled history. You're preaching to the choir. It really sounds like you're defending Nazis by claiming that America is somehow the "real evil" when OP's post can pretty succinctly be summarized as "Nazis Bad".
We did fight Nazis in WWII, everything else notwithstanding, and we are going to have to do it again soon. We're trying to figure out who is on what side, and with your attitude, you're going to end up being an honorary fascist since you're going to throw a semantic tantrum every time someone signals anti-fascism.
... By way of national pride, forgetting the US's "troubled" past. Trying to counter fascism with patriotism is a dangerous game.
The responses seem too differ.
You're awfully glib about a looming civil war.
Sure, the person disliking patriotism will be an "honorary fascist". /s 🙄
The Confederacy is right there. In the meme.
Are you even trying?
Like the confederacy was the only time the US was white supremacist. Ever heard of Nixon and how his war on drugs was just a strategy to criminalize black people (and leftists)?
I'm sorry the meme doesn't acknowledge every crime of the USA in the space of one photo and three sentences?
You could have just not posted revisionist crap?
"Revisionism is when you point out that Nazis and Confederates were rejected by America in two brutal wars, and the more you point that out, the more revisionist it is"
That strawman device doesn't get better with reuse, you know.
Revisionism is when you claim that white supremacy isn't baked into the DNA of the USA.
Okay, buddy. You have fun with that.
I will
You've gone way into No True Scotsman territory. Your argument is fallacious, and pro-fascist.
I think you neither know what the true scotsman fallacy, nor fascism is.
Cool. I don't care what you think, as you have been spouting absolutism all over the thread, and as Samuel Clemmons once said, opened your mouth and removed all doubt.
Lol, "absolutism".