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Plastics makers tout "a world without waste." But what does that mean?
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If your rubric for a good comment is proposing solutions, I haven't seen anything from you but bitching that this person hasn't solved the world's problems.
I haven't thrown a one-sentence "we shouldda" out there, I don't need to "propose solutions". Also, such "proposals" mean jack, have no bearing on real life and are transient in nature - a week from now nobody will remember the post. This isn't the UN, this is a small forum with angrily idealistic people who ultimately won't be in a position to suggest anything or introduce any change in how the world works.
Whar leads you to believe we don't log out and go do gardening, talk to friends about what to do about all of this, call our senators and congressmen, canvas people to register to vote?
What leads you to believe your gardening will change anything? What leads you to believe calling a politician will bring about any change? Especially with saying things like "let's get rid of all the plastic in the world"? Ultimately nobody here has enough power behind them to actually influence anything, especially with such an unrealistic idea.
So your solution is petulant nothingness? Your goals for the planet are to let it burn? I'm not saying I have the answers, but you're in here telling us what we're doing isn't helpful, but we've asked you what you're doing, what ideas you have to bring to the table that we could start implementing, but all you ever offer is apathy. This is my last comment to you unless you want to start suggesting things. Its clear you don't agree with this communities core ethos which is "for things to change you have to do things"
Nope, I do things that matter and give visible and measurable impact. Again I am hit here with main character syndrome - there is no "table" to bring ideas to. I am not going to be "suggesting things". It'd be screaming into the void that is forgotten after a cute cat video pops up on youtube.
Like what?
Want me to dox myself? I won't really do that. Also I don't have to prove anything to anyone.
I’m just asking you to share your wisdom, oh wise one. What should us plebs be doing that we’re not?
I think their answer is "bitch and complain about everybody else".
This is a line I keep seeing from people who are just anti-action. "Trust me, I'm one of you, I'm a real activist, I'm on your side, and you're doing it all wrong."
It's just a really cheap way to claim credibility so you can tear down people who have anything to say. I wouldn't be surprised if it's straight out of a cointelpro handbook. Not saying everyone who talks like this is a personally an op, but I also wouldn't be surprised if coaching reactionaries to talk this way is also in their handbook. They can just send out an army of unpaid little shitheads to sow discord.