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[-] SternburgExport@feddit.de 44 points 4 months ago

especially when I see what kind of people choose to have kids

[-] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 4 months ago

Then you're leaving the future to them.

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 4 months ago

And the suffering that they cause.

[-] sexy_peach@beehaw.org 12 points 4 months ago
[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If noone is cultivating and passing on positive culture, it's not making the chances of reducing suffering any better is my point.

ETA: I am not, to be clear, trying to say that having children is, in itself, a morally/ethically good thing. Generally, it is neutral but may be otherwise depending on one's situation. Choosing whether or not to have children is a personal choice - what's right for one might not be for another. Declaring others morally/ethically wrong for having children is myopic and likely a result of projecting one's experience into others.

In addition, antinatalism is bordering on eco-fascism, which is not ok. It seems most commonly expressed to make one feel superior while not putting in effort to effect positive change, like anti-electoralism/accelerationism.

[-] JayDee@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

Adoption. Community building. Helping the disenfranchised.

These are all methods of bettering the future without pumping another child into this world. And arguably, they're morally better than having a child.

[-] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

I didn't know these where mutually exclusive.

[-] JayDee@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

You were the one who implied that, by saying that not having children leaves it up to those who will.

[-] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

Have you or are you planning to adopt a child?

[-] jaaake@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

They’re not making a choice. They’re anti-choice.

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