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[-] sinstrium@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago

Russia is literally the only reason why countries like Cuba or DPRK are still standing- I do not think China would ever put up the slag in that regard. So the preserverance of russian independence is one of the major ways the global south can be helped.

[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 40 points 4 months ago

Russia is literally the only reason why countries like Cuba or DPRK are still standing

This is an overstatement. These places are standing because they literally fought and WON against the US. Give them the credit they deserve.

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago

I don’t think it’s taking away from their revolutionary achievements to say that they would have been crushed without the Soviet Union!

[-] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago

But there's also a serious difference between those two things. USSR =/= Russia.

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

True, I interpreted op as referring to both the ussr and Russia. If they are exclusively referring to the last 30 years, yes they’re incorrect. Regardless they would have perished on their own

[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Sure, but it is on the same level as claims that the USSR only defeated the Nazis because of the lend lease act. Material doesn’t fight on its own, and wars aren’t won without labor. You need both to be successful.