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Maybe now. The Republicans in my family left the party after 2016. Granted, they're still on my shit list for voting against LGBT stuff but at least they've recognized the error of their ways.
What anti-lgbt stuff did they vote against?
They voted for the Party that hates gay people. That's enough for me.
Hahah, see how quickly you back down from your comment?
'well, I lied before, but they might as well have!! Therefore, SHITLIST!'
Go ahead, tell me who they voted for that they're on your shit list because they vote differently than you do.
I didn't back down. They voted for Trump in 2016. The GOP platform is explicitly anti gay. Had my step dad voted for Trump in 2020 he wouldn't be invited to my gay wedding because Republicans want to overturn Obergafell.
I don't care who you vote for as long as they support gay rights.
I didn't lie. You just can't read.
I'm a single issue voter and that issue is queer rights.
You did. You literally said your parents are on your shit list because they voted against lgbt policies. Then I asked about those policies, and you said that they actually didn't do that....?
Trump was the first pro-gay marriage president that had ever been elected.
Do you agree with every single policy every single democrat has ever discussed?
"I don't care who you vote for as long as it's someone who agrees with me"
My bad, you didn't say "they’re still on my shit list for voting against LGBT stuff"?
And anyone that doesn't think exactly like you and vote exactly like you is on your shit list?
Lol, it's cute you think queer rights is just a simple disagreement.
I'm sure you agree with every single conservative plank when you vote.
Not sure what your "gotcha" is here. I had family who voted for him. They opened their eyes to the bs.
If someone votes for politicians with anti-queer policies then they need to deal with the consequences just like the rest of us do.
I don't have to associate with anyone and there isn't a rational argument against queer human rights.
Let's say you were my sibling and you plan on voting for Trump (or whoever the GOP nom will be). If you did then you wouldn't get an invite to my wedding. It's that simple. You had shown you don't support gay rights. Once you, as my sibling, abandon family for politics then you cut out.
What rights specifically are you talking about?
Nope, actually, I disagree on a lot of conservative views.
You said they voted against lgbt policies and that's why they're on your shit list, but there's not one lgbt policy you can name they voted against
So you're for repercussions against people that don't vote in line with you?
Of course, you have freedom of association listed out in our constitutional rights. What human rights do I, an asian male, have that queers don't? My girlfriend is queer, so I really want to know what human rights she does not have so I can fight for her.
Oh, so an individual candidate's views doesn't matter, purely the party? Do you know anyone who voted for Obama in 08? They were voting for a man that was against gay marriage, you better cut them off. As I mentioned before, and you ignored, Trump is the first president to come into office being pro-gay marriage.
Cool. So your gf is queer. She can inform you.
Lastly, Trump isn't pro-gay marriage. He's just pro whatever gets him attention. Surrounding himself with a bunch of homophobes and transphobes doesn't make him pro-gay.
2016 GOP platform calls for a ban on same sex marriage. That's anti-gay. Voting for any Republican is anti-gay. Not sure how you can't understand that. Maybe, again, ask your "queer" gf.
I'm just asking you to back up your comments, it seems like you are incapable of it.
He ran on a platform that included being pro-gay marriage. If you want to stick to your single issue voting record, you should've voted for trump back in 2016. See how quickly your 'logic' falls apart, when you actually learn about positions of candidates? Once again, if you know anyone that voted for obama in 08, you should cut them out of your life.
Sure, I don't support their platform. I can support candidates, though.
Nope, plenty of republicans are pro-gay. I just showed you, Obama was anti-gay marriage, and Trump was pro gay marriage.
I keep showing you how you're wrong, but you keep pearl clutching. You don't want to have an informed vote, you want to yell at one side, which is fine, but stop trying to act like you're so holy when you can't even tell me what rights you're trying to preserve.
You refuse to answer the most basic question of your stance: What right do I, an asian man, have that my queer girlfriend (or if you don't want to compare me to her, you can use yourself as you've identified as queer) has.
As you requested, I have asked my queer GF, and she says we have the same rights. So I'm curious about the gap of understanding between you and her. Please clarify, because as a result of your wishy washy statements, your changing views and your persistence of saying that you don't have the same rights (or the rights are under threat), despite providing no back up to that statement, is extremely confusing.
For one you don't have to look over your shoulder when holding your partner's hand in public. You don't have politicians calling you a pedo. You could have married her at any point. You don't have to worry about losing your job or housing for being queer depending on where you live. You don't have to worry about your kids being taken away from you because you're gay and your state doesn't think your kids are safe.
I'm really surprised at how ignorant your gf is about que er issues. Are you sure she's queer or did she just kiss a girl once.
Tru.p state department appealed federal ruling recognizing the citizenship of a girl born to a gay couple.
Trump banned trans folks from serving in the army.
Trump remixes anti-discrimination protections from HHS.
Trump admin adopted regulation that gender is biological sex, it isn't.
Trump blamed the Orlando Pulse shooting on radical Islam when it was a home grown mass murderer.
Trump SCOTUS noms are hostile to gay equality and advocate ridiculous religious liberty arguments.
Trump's VP supported conversation therapy, which is torture.
Trump rescinded protections for gay workers, so they could be fired just for being gay.
Trump admin argued Civil Rights Act doesn't protect queer people.
Trump fired the WH Office of National AIDS Policy. He also ignored the impact HIV/AIDS had on the LGBTQ community on World AIDS Day.
As for Obama, I'm happy Biden pushed him to support gay marriage. I cried when I saw that announcement. I can't fault people for voting for a candidate who didn't support SSM when no-one supported SSM.
As for your gf. She's either lying or just pretending to be queer for the clout.
Is that a right?
I'm a conservative asian in a very liberal city. I've been called every sort of name. Does that mean conservative asians don't have rights?
No, there was a time when interracial marriage was illegal.
That's illegal. Once again, you and I have the same rights, you're not proving your point at all.
Where is this an issue?
Are you the lord of queers and you deem who is actually queer or not? She's very involved in the community, she just doesn't lie like you do.
"Tru.p state department appealed federal ruling recognizing the citizenship of a girl born to a gay couple.
Trump banned trans folks from serving in the army.
Trump remixes anti-discrimination protections from HHS.
Trump admin adopted regulation that gender is biological sex, it isn’t.
Trump blamed the Orlando Pulse shooting on radical Islam when it was a home grown mass murderer.
Trump SCOTUS noms are hostile to gay equality and advocate ridiculous religious liberty arguments.
Trump’s VP supported conversation therapy, which is torture.
Trump rescinded protections for gay workers, so they could be fired just for being gay.
Trump admin argued Civil Rights Act doesn’t protect queer people.
Trump fired the WH Office of National AIDS Policy. He also ignored the impact HIV/AIDS had on the LGBTQ community on World AIDS Day."
You listed all of these, but you can't name one single right that I have that you don't.
Just tell me one right, man. You keep beating around the bush and trying to dig up things you don't like. That doesn't mean someone is trying to take away your rights. It's really simple: List one right that I, a straight person, has that you don't.