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Sperm whales communicate with each other using rhythmic sequences of clicks, called codas. It was previously thought that sperm whales had just 21 coda types. However, after studying almost 9,000 recordings, the Ceti researchers identified 156 distinct codas. They also noticed the basic building blocks of these codas which they describe as a "sperm whale phonetic alphabet" – much like phonemes, the units of sound in human language which combine to form words.

Pratyusha Sharma, a PhD student at MIT and lead author of the study, describes the "fine-grain changes" in vocalisations the AI identified. Each coda consists of between three and 40 rapid-fire clicks. The sperm whales were found to vary the overall speed, or the "tempo", of the codas, as well as to speed up and slow down during the delivery of a coda, in other words, making it "rubato". Sometimes they added an extra click at the end of a coda, akin, says Sharma, to "ornamentation" in music. These subtle variations, she says, suggest sperm whale vocalisations could carry a much richer amount of information than previously thought.

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[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 55 points 4 months ago

I know it's a general consumption news story, but I wish they'd have at least included a name or basic description of what the "AI" used was. "AI" is about as blandly unspecific as you can get even if it's only being applied to algorithms that fall into that broad category, let alone how commonly it's misused nowadays.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 months ago

Clippy. The AI was Clippy.

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

It bothered me too so I clicked on the highlighted link in the article and in that there are these tidbits.

The data collected has been processed using machine-learning algorithms to detect and classify clicks, with results due to be published in 2024.

And

More than 5,000 miles (8,000km) away, a group of artificial intelligence and natural language processing experts, cryptographers, linguists, marine biologists, robotic experts and underwater acousticians are also hoping to use AI – this time to decipher sperm whale conversation.

Emphasis mine

[-] runeko@programming.dev 6 points 4 months ago

I hope to master all of time and space ... but I don't have a plan nor any motivation to do so. Where's my article?!

[-] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[-] runeko@programming.dev 6 points 4 months ago

Drat, now I'm trapped in a web of my own prophecy. I should have seen that coming.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

I think that's a link to a different group. The study they link in the first article is more direct data analysis.

[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Yeah, it’s so commonly misused that I tend to just equate it to some sort of machine learning algorithm. Which is really just some complicated statistics and a database in a trenchcoat.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 months ago

ML is in the category of AI, IMO. This was just scientific data analysis though, dressed up with the buzzword. It's the right tool for the job and looks like good work, but not AI. Which is fine. I don't get why people feel the need to call "doing something with data on a computer" AI.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Here is the paper ... https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-47221-8

I skimmed it and it seems Methodology (near the bottom of the paper) has some info. They also have 2 links to github for the data and custom scripts used.

Sorry, this is way out of my range of understanding. Hoping it helps.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 months ago

It does! This isn't anything that I'd call AI. It's cool work, but it was just regular old scientific analysis and data visualization. Buzzwords strike again.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

I'd be blaming the BBC and journalists/editors for that mess then.

Glad you got the info you wanted tho. 👍

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago

Someone found a little AI in one of the code cells. Pretty low-level stuff, but it was used a little bit.

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

This almost certainly means using traditional machine learning algorithms against a massive corpus of whale vocalizations and descriptions.

[-] match@pawb.social 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Probably unsupervised learning, specifically! So maybe some kind of k means clusters based off characteristics of the sounds

edit: got it in one baybee

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

That's the thing, dude, when you write software...it doesn't have a name. They probably started with a framework like tensor flow and then stacked audio analysis ml modules on top figuratively, but this was probably mostly written in house it's not a commercial product.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm in "artificial intelligence" and write software. I'm not looking for a product name. If they developed an entirely new technique that'd also be cool to mention, but they probably built on existing techniques and were at least working in some broad form of AI.

Edit: After looking at the paper, it's the "misused" category. They were doing regular scientific data analysis.

[-] match@pawb.social 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The github shows them doing some k nearest neighbors and kernel estimation as part of their understanding of the coda (I think? I don't know anything about whales)

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago

The KMeans is actually an unused import, but yeah, I see the kernel estimation. They also use a gaussian mixture in one of the lower cells. So a little AI.

[-] match@pawb.social 1 points 4 months ago

Whales can have a little AI as a treat :3

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