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I don't understand this weird American obsession with flag. I was looking at some photos of Trump's rallies. Flags everywhere - on shirts, hats, glasses etc. And this bizarre cult of the flag - "it cannot touch the ground" etc.

At the end of the day the flag is just a piece of cloth. If you worship any flag or take offense to any flag, you need to get a life.

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[-] Wolf314159@startrek.website 48 points 2 months ago

I'm no nationalistic fanatic of the flag, but is it really so difficult to understand that the flag is a symbol?

Obviously each flag, be they for nations or other groups, represents more than just a piece of cloth to many people. Taking offence at someone else's identifying with what a flag symbolizes is not okay. But, I tend to look skeptically at worship of any kind of idol, be it flag, cross, or text. That still doesn't mean it's okay to hate or persecute people for their beliefs, even if they appear silly to you and as long as they don't hurt others.

One group can demonstrate their respect for the nation by physically following some rules around the flag and others can demonstrate their loyalty to their ideals of the nation being violated by flying the flag upside down or burning a flag.

A flag or banner is not just a piece of cloth, never has been.

[-] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

you're absolutely right, and reminds me of the George Carlin bit, hopefully I've remembered it right:

"flags are symbols for the symbol-minded"

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Very well put.

[-] best_username_ever@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

IMHO human beings are more important than stupid symbols. If you don’t respect humans and their non violent choices, the symbol lost all its meaning, especially the one about being the "land of the free".

[-] Wolf314159@startrek.website 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

IMHO human beings are more important than stupid symbols.

At no point did I make anything close to a claim like this. In fact I very clearly stated that hurting others was NOT OK.

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