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submitted 5 months ago by mozz@mbin.grits.dev to c/politics@lemmy.world

I hate that this is the debate we’re having now

I also hate that I’m feeding into the NYT’s lazy and transparent attempt to undo their previous partisanship with new opposite partisanship like those two things cancel out and add up to journalism

But what the hell, if that’s where we’re at, this is a relevant data point about the landscape

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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago

So you're just straight-up announcing your intention to immediately dismiss any answer you're given.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 5 months ago

No, I am warning them that I plan to show the poll numbers comparing Biden to whoever they select. Dismissing is different from debunking with evidence. But yes, I plan to debunk whatever they say, assuming it’s realistic enough to be found in a list of even some pretty outlandish Democratic possibilities.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago

Well, you intend to paste a graph that doesn't take into account that no potential candidate other than Biden has campaigned at all, and that despite Biden's campaigning, his numbers are still shit.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 8 points 5 months ago

Moving goalposts is good clean fun, isn't it? I am finished though. I have chased them around for as long as I wanted to.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

You're taking advantage of a catch-22. No one's numbers can go up until they campaign, and no one's gonna campaign unless Biden steps aside.

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 3 points 5 months ago

Their numbers will go down after the Russians and right-wing media launch their anti-campaign against the new nominee. It's much easier to smear someone than for them to get a positive message out. Especially if you can lie and not be held accountable.

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