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[-] andyburke@fedia.io 101 points 4 months ago

I feel bad for the reasonable employees at SpaceX - this sucks for decent people.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 61 points 4 months ago

I don't. Look, we already had this discussion years ago. You don't feel bad for the stormtrooper, or their families when you blow up the deathstar. They knew what they were getting into.

[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 68 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I’m sure there are plenty of people who started at SpaceX before we all truly knew the monster musk is. Also, the work they are doing is incredibly important. It’s hard to give that up. It shouldn’t be this hard to empathize with people

[-] skyspydude1@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Knowing many people who've worked for him, you have about 6 months at a MuskCo brand company max before you really know what a piece of shit he is, and either a.) leave ASAP, b.) convince yourself it won't be so bad and hang on for ~2 years, or c.) fall into the cult of personality and believe that Daddy Elon loves his little proles and cares very much about all the hard work you're doing [EMPLOYEE NUMBER HERE].

The absolute last stop on the "Musk is Tony Stark but IRL epic gamer Redditor and likes weed and Rick and Morty!" train was when he called that cave diver a pedophile. It was apparent well before then, but anyone acting like they had no idea what a piece of shit he was after that either didn't hear about it, or was willfully ignorant because they wanted to continue pretending that basing their entire personality around a billionaire wasn't a terrible idea.

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[-] andyburke@fedia.io 42 points 4 months ago

But they didn't. The guy had me in the first half when he cried because Buzz Aldrin didn't like him. Elon wasn't always so obvious with his bullshit. There was a time when he looked minted as a purveyor of a bright future - the mask slipped.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 44 points 4 months ago

The mask has been off for at least 8 years.

No sympathy for anyone who still stans that phony.

[-] essteeyou@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

When did he call that rescuer a "pedo"? Because that's when I changed my mind on him forever.

Edit: It was June 2018.

[-] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 months ago

Then he fired his PR team not long after that. He pushed out all the people getting paid to help him not look like an idiot.

[-] neoman4426@fedia.io 5 points 4 months ago

Musk should likely have all his storage media searched, just randomly accusing people of things like pedophilia for no reason is often projection, "don't look at me, I clearly can't be one as I'm the most vocal about being against them, look over here instead" or whatever

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[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

I mean, the stormtroopers were largely either conscripted, or they were clones who were raised in it. Very few were actual mercenaries or people who had a choice to join or not. I still feel bad for them.

[-] IllNess@infosec.pub 6 points 4 months ago

Stormtroopers is fair. What about maintenance staff?

What about prisoners?

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago

Does Elon Musk profit off slave labor from prisoners?

[-] Irremarkable@fedia.io 12 points 4 months ago

Considering the mining industries for many of the rare earth metals needed? Yeah he does.

Plus there's the whole apartheid emerald slave mine thing, which is how daddy made the money he got to play with.

[-] nulluser@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago

I don't think any of those people are being relocated to Texas.

[-] Nfamwap@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Lucky for them, eh?

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 5 points 4 months ago

I'm curious, is it reasonable to blame employees for their employers actions like this? I mean to a certain extent perhaps, depending on your position in the company (like if you are part of upper management then you are more responsible obviously).

Many people are just trying to get by and getting jobs is not easy. Is it okay to blame a person for working somewhere if they don't have much other choice? Capitalism kinda forces you to work within the system like this.

[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z6SFL5fCCg

they built another deathstar right? the first one was completed and fully operational before the rebels destroyed it and the second one was still being built when it was blown up

the first death star was manned by the imperial army only people on board were stormtroopers dignitaries imperials so when they blew it up no problem evil punished

the second time around it was not even done being built yet was still under construction job of that magnitude would require a hell of lot more manpower than the imperial army had to offer

bet they brought in independent contractors in on that thing plumbers aluminum siders roofers

in order to get built quickly and quietly they would hire anyone to do the job you think the average stormtrooper knows how to install a toilet main

all they know is killing in white uniforms

all those innocent contractors brought in to do job are killed casualties of a war they had nothing to do with

alright look you're roofer some juicy government comes your way you got a wife the two kids in suburbia

this is a government contract with all sort of benefits and along come these left wing militants and blast everything in a three mile radius with their lasers

they did not ask for that they had no personal politics they were just trying to scrape out a living

[-] Pieresqi@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

"Innocent contractors"

Wtf 🤮

In my book it doesn't matter if you are building or operating the gas chambers.

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I think Andor settled this fairly definitively.

[-] Krono@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago

I'm a little surprised that this comment has gotten so many upvotes.

Would you apply this same logic to the real world? For example, imagine if a manufacturing facility for Lockheed Martin or General Dynamics was bombed and thousands of working class Americans died. These people are building bombs that are being used in an ongoing genocide.

Would you consider this a heinous terrorist act, or a noble strike in the fight for freedom?

[-] Pieresqi@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Noble strike.

Death to american hegemony.

[-] Zirconium@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

what about the restaurants that feed those workers? or the farmers that grow the crops? or the worker's families

[-] Pieresqi@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Since you are maliciously leading it in this direction I will intentionally skip to the end.

We should kill every human because we share DNA.

Happy ?

[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 2 points 4 months ago

Especially when the job market contracted with all the IT company layoffs, some people may be stuck in jobs they hate because opportunities are few and they'd rather not be homeless or have their kids not have food and so on.

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Maybe 5 years ago. They've had plenty of time to see reason and jump ship to anyone else. Elon hasn't exactly been quiet with his escapades...

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

People hate switching jobs.

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[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago

if you're working at spacex or tesla you're not reasonable.

[-] nulluser@programming.dev 6 points 4 months ago
[-] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I have always felt Twixxer rolls off the tongue better, so I'm surprised Xitter seems to have gained more traction.

[-] nulluser@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago

In this narrow case, it's considered proper/correct to pronounce the "x" like an "sh", which greatly improves the tongue rolling.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 8 points 4 months ago

If you're working at one if his companies at this stage you probably already know about his management "style" and you've either already updated your resume or you're just cool with it.

[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

Let's not forget the Golden Handcuffs. Although given what was reported from Twitter, I'm not sure that applies.

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