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Senior North Korean diplomat defects to South
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How do most defectors fare once the integration process is complete? Does Seoul help with post defection career placement?
Some integrate better than others most certainly. Younger defectors might go to Korean universities. Older ones might go work in factories or wherever they're a good fit. Some want to go back to North Korea because they can't handle the cultural differences.
This guy is higher-profile than most, so he's prolly gonna live pretty kushily.
Can they go back? Wouldn't they risk imprisonment or execution?
Naw. They ain't going back. There's no program to send them back and it would be a massive security risk.
I’m pretty sure like 80% of North Korean defectors start in China. Obviously, a top diplomat with resources wouldn’t necessarily do that since China wants to keep up appearances (even if they sort of hate North Korea). But “most” “defectors” fare about as well as “illegal immigrants” in the U.S. or Europe.
As cynical as it may be, it’s in South Korea’s, China’s, and North Korea’s interest to ignore most of it. If it gets media attention, maybe South Korea or a Western country accepts them as asylum seekers. A few times, people got into western embassies in Beijing and it was global news. China was not happy. But most people who leave North Korea end up working in a Beijing noodle shop or whatever.
And South Korea, while often proclaiming to want reunification, doesn’t actually want the headaches. It’d probably be 1,000 times more complex than Germany and East Germany reuniting.