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[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

She did not call for a permanent ceasefire

If she thinks that genocide is self-defense, then she's a supporter of genocide. Israel does not have a "right" to commit genocide in "self defense".

There are definitely candidates that are opposed to the genocide. Let's hope we put them at the top of the ticket. Otherwise, there was no point in Biden stepping aside as people want someone who will unapologetically stop funding the genocide and join the rest of the world in condemning Israel and giving Statehood to Palestine

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 1 points 3 months ago

I agree with you. This nuance here is that don't we want a candidate who has a chance of moving towards peace?

Yes, it was a temporary ceasefire, worse so, directed towards Hamas so they wouldn't fire upon aid given by Israel. Still, calling for Israel to give aid matters.

Trump will not. Biden would not. We are just assuming that Harris will, with little evidence to support it other than that she has been part of Biden's Cabinet, while her actual actions have been attempting to mitigate more death.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

We have an empty seat now. We could fill it with someone who actually has called for solidarity with the victims of Israeli genocide.

Now is the time to speak out and say "no" to Harris and others who support genocide. Better options are Sanders ,West, AOC, etc.

We have dozens of other options to put on the top of the ticket that are better than Harris and will actually get people to come out to vote.

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 1 points 3 months ago

I think Sanders is too old since that's the issue with Trump and Biden. AOC isn't 35 yet and young people in politics are heavily discriminated against so I have a feeling she would be hard to get. I'm hoping her for 2028 though, as our landscape has changed and I want younger people in politics so, so desperately.

Believe me, I would love to get Sanders, AOC, Warren, West, that dem Arizona guy even. I think we are just in a situation where we're too close to have someone else - from my understanding, aren't there a number of states that currently wouldn't be able to replace a nominee? If so, wouldn't that effectively be splitting the democratic vote between states that had the new nominee and states that didn't?

FWIW - full Gaza supporter here, I do not want their blood on our hands.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 2 points 3 months ago

I don't understand this logic. We can't afford some centrist genocide supporter. People won't go vote if we just get someome who doesn't meet the demands of the left.

Only someone like Sanders, AOC, or West can defeat Trump. Don't make the same mistake they did by picking Hilary. She lost because she wasn't a progressive.

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