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Jagmeet Singh isn't Trudeau either, and the NDP actually has policies that would help people. But people still turn to the Conservatives, despite their track record of making things worse and their new affinity for far-right populism.
No matter how much you lay out that policies passed by the NDP are more effective at resolving the issues that they're flocking to PP for... They always circle back around to "but they havent stopped trudeau" or "they never do anything" or even (the funniest one) "they're corrupt"
I'm hopeful for the states now that kamala is the likely nominee... But I think we're doomed up here
I'm really hoping she wins so PP doesn't have a tidal wave of fascism down south to surf on, and at least has to generate his own momentum.
Jagmeet has also done a ton more for Canadians with 24 seats compared to Pierre and his 118.
Yes. Unlike PP and the Conservatives, he actually wants to do things for Canadians.
The CPC is His Majesty's Loyal Opposition, their job is to oppose the His Majesty's Government (aka the Liberals). Can you point our where he has failed at this?
They are supposed to oppose things that aren't in the best interest of Canadians, to stop government abuse they absolutely can support things that are in the best interest of Canadians.
Are you disputing my comment or just randomly asking me a question?
You said that the NDP has done more for Canadians than the CPC, so since the CPC's job is to oppose the government can you point out when they failed to do that to the detriment of Canadians?
Just to be clear we are in agreement that NDP has done more for Canadians this term.
If CPC/Oppositions job is purely to oppose the government why did they vote yes thousands of times on Liberal/NDP motions. By your standard are you saying Conservative MP's are so incompetent they don't when to stand or press the right button?
I'm not certain the NDP has done more than the CPC, but of they have it's been outweighed by propping up all the other bullshit of this government.
How many times now has Singh chastised the Liberals but supported the very same policies anyways when it actually came down to votes in Parliament?
My point about it being the CPC's job to oppose is that it's not their job to come up with ideas.
Edit: Basically, my view is that although the NDP have done a few positive things (as have the Liberals) they've been a net negative on the country since 2019 whereas the CPC net is basically zero because the odd few things they've tried to do other than oppose, both positive and negative, don't pass in Parliament. IMHO the biggest positive thing that has happened since 2019 the CPC and NDP (and Bloc) voted together on against the Liberals: when they stopped the Liberals from assuming unaccountable emergency power right at the beginning of the pandemic... It's too bad this alliance didn't continue.
Logically speaking wouldn't you be against the person who said they'd use the notwithstanding clause running the country?
From a Conservatives perspective NDP is blocking them from taking over and saving the country. From Progressive perspective the NDP is preventing a bad government turning even worse.
To be honest, my level of trust in the CPC isn't all that greater than the LPC... marginally more at best.
This is absolute bullshit, the NDP have been Liberal enablers since 2019. If they were actually serious about stopping the Liberals Singh wouldn't be voting with them in the HoC.
but he likes expensive watches!
Ah, I forgot. I guess then we just have to choose fascism.