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[-] RussianEngineer@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

rust takes AGES to compile literally anything. also the compiler on i686 requiring SSE2 instructions is a massive thorn in my side as a old computer user and is the primary driver of my hatred of rust lmao. it gets in my way quite a lot since rust has creeped its way into a lot of open source projects these days

[-] PaX@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

REAL

Rust tends to break or not work entirely outside of modern PCs running Linux or Windows and this also annoys me a lot lol, this is the reason we don't have Firefox on 32-bit PowerPC machines either :(

You can't even build Rust on machines with less than 4 GB of main memory at this point

Also suffers from the C++ problem of being so overcomplicated that independent implementations are extremely difficult to write

Deeply unportable language pretending to be a new operating system

[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Rust is lovely to program in (IMO), but another problem is packaging. Rust basically statically links everything and it makes it an incredible pain for distributions to package individual rust libraries and applications properly. It is one of the most frequent complaints I see scrolling up the screen among contributors on #gentoo-chat.

[-] RussianEngineer@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

another issue with the static linking is the larger binary sizes it causes, meaning more of my precious disk space is wasted!!! another big issue on extremely resource limited systems such as 90s equipment with hard drives measured in hundreds of megabytes. i have gentoo running on a OG pentium (coz its one of the few distros left that truely supports it, via their i486 branch) and i have a dedicated hard drive for all the package management files and other caches portage uses lmao

[-] makotech222@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

building lemmy locally on my pc takes like 5-10 minutes and produces >60gb of 'build files'. absolutely ridiculous lmao.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

also the compiler on i686 requiring SSE2 instructions is a massive thorn in my side as a old computer user

My comrade, tell me what old stinky i386 CPU you use!! meow-tankie

[-] RussianEngineer@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

a 80386, multiple 80486's, a pentium-133, a pentium2, and two non-sse2 pentium4s. and they all have useful purposes for various things. things you cant do with an emulator

old

stinky

now look here buddy shoulder-grab

modern tech delenda est

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

I was nodding along like "Waow...." [Basedbasedbasedbased] until

Pentium 4s

desolate

[-] RussianEngineer@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

yes, even the awful netbursts have their use. and no, that use is not "spaceheater" even if they do that as a secondary function

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

Anything they can do that an Athlon XP would not? Purely curious (also I have always wanted an Athlon XP or 64 system rip)

[-] RussianEngineer@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

athlon XPs dont support DMA over their ISA bus. the p4 can with specific chipsets

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

lea-think I have a S478 board with an ISA slot... cool stuff?

[-] RussianEngineer@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

only if it has one of the chipsets which will allow full DMA over the isa slot, aka the intel 8xx series

the intel 865/875 is the best one as it supports a faster FSB over the older 845 and 815 chipsets

they're kinda rare tho and if it does have one, the 845 with the slower FSB is way more common then the others

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

Okay, old computer users get a woke c++ pass

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