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So much better than the other guy, though. Writing in a candidate will be fun for some people, but I'm choosing to vote for someone who 1) can win and 2) won't strip away freedoms in the name of religion.
Whataboutism adds nothing to the conversation and fails to address the criticism being discussed.
There's people in this thread saying "well then I'm gonna write in a socialist"
This isn't whataboutism, this is actual existential threat to this country and the stability of all the countries we send our military to. Kamala Harris' comments on the anti-genocide protest are wholly unacceptable and present the overall message as Pro-HAMAS, which it distinctly isn't, but we do still have to think about which piece of shit benefits most from writing in someone who cannot win in a first past the post election
The US hasn't had democracy for at least 40 years. The owner class decide who we are allowed to elect (the money filter). The elected enact the policies that the owner class want.
Here is a tweet from Bernie from today:
Lina Khan, Chair of the FTC, pushed to get the non-compete agreement ban passed. Reid Hoffman is the Dem's version of Peter Thiel. He paid Harris $7 million so she will fire Khan and reinstate non-compete agreements once elected.
Results from a 2014 Princeton study that took data from nearly 2000 public opinion surveys over a 20 year span and compared it to the policies that ended up becoming law.
https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba
Direct link to the study: https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf
The corporate duopoly bought and paid for the government a long time ago. The only solution is a united front based along class lines (working class vs owner class). Everything else is a distraction.
40 years? my guy u are talking about a genocidal slave sate that was created in order to preserve slavery and commit more genocides a country where for much of its existence only white men with land could vote a country were when those blatant forms of discrimination became untenable did everything it could to ensure that only those people had any impact on politics. amerikkka was never a democracy
Most of the population doesn't live in a swing state
oh ok sorry
Fucking hope this site is in no way representative of the voting population, because Jesus Christ.
That, or all the "I'm totally a progressive that suddenly learned about Gaza last week and refuse to vote for Biden because of it" astroturfing is shifting their gears to Harris.
They were looking for a new unified attack vector, and then she went and said this and they realized they could just keep doing the same old tired shit.
Reminder: if you give a single shit about Palestine or the people who live there, you will do everything you can to prevent Trump and down ballot Republicans from winning. At all costs.
If you can't see the forest for the trees, you're gonna find out real quick what happens in Gaza when Trump wins. Assuming you actually give a shit about those people and aren't just using them as political pawns to try to change the sentiment regarding Kamala Harris.
Great job justifying your vote for a pro-genocide candidate! You used a lot of words and did a nice whataboutism on Trump instead of focusing on how she's going to continue to support Israel no matter what they do just like Joe did. 🚩
Dead on with that.
wouldnt it be easier to shove your phone? unless youre on a computer then i guess youd have to invite them over for dinner and make them play the scary maze game but instead of the exorcist face its that comment
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Democrats seem very eager to re-elect blue-flavored genocide. I'm very glad you feel so excited about her chances to win. I think the Palestinian children getting headshot by Israelis will be overjoyed to hear about the freedoms you will enjoy.
It's a travesty, but after a cease fire is drafted and world news starts covering something else, we're still stuck with whoever is president. I've never voted based on one single issue. There's lots of stuff to consider.
Isn't that going to happen regardless of who is put into office?
Correct our regime supports this genocide.
Gaza residents will be exterminated but we don't have to feed two party system.
What does it mean to feed the system? Participate in it? Are there reasonable alternatives?
Voting for either party provide the regime legitimacy.
Voting 3p is a denying them legitimacy
Okay, so participating in the system is feeding it. I understand your point, but it feels like you're completely dismissing the momentum our current system has. I don't think slowing it down is a possibility right now, especially since the mechanisms in place specifically prevent extreme policy changes from one administration to the next--namely, our country's 70+ years of hard-line support for Israel--so the next reasonable step to take is to steer it in a better direction.
Unfortunately, the majority of people are already steering either right or left. Refusing to engage or trying to push this massive machine in a less popular direction is, for now, like screaming into the void. So, I push with the others, hoping to create breathing room until we can change the way we do things and allow for better political representation in our democracy.
50% right, 50% left nothing is done.
I am breaking the tie. Clearly doing the two party circle jerk aint doing shit for anyone who works for money.
I don't think having additional parties is enough of a change. Two or ten, there could still be a stalemate, and without a good way to keep things actually representative, we'll just revert to the status quo.
real purpose for 3p voting within US would be to deny 2 party regime legitimacy and MAYBE we can get some worker focused reforms, but this is a wet dream.
best plebs can do currently it let the regime know "NO"