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[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

The youth are not historically known for showing up to vote.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 12 points 4 months ago

That's what the media says, but kids these days are showing up more than their parents were at their age.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I just hope it's enough.

[-] kofe@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

There's an increasing trend, though. The last couple elections have been pivotal. Sucks we didn't turn out in 2016, but we're learning. Young women telling young men you ain't getting laid while abortion is illegal. LGBT+ saying you won't take our healthcare. New parents saying we need universal childcare, college students saying debt forgiveness is essential.

I don't know if it'll be enough, but I know I'll never miss an election again, at least

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"The youth are notorious for low turnout. That's why Kamala Harris (and possibly her VP) increasing their turnout isn't important."

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

More like being popular with a demographic who doesn't show up to vote hasn't historically been a good way to win elections.

If they actually show up this time, awesome.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 months ago

Biden literally won in 2020 with strong youth turnout while Clinton lost in 2016 with a weak one. Historically, youth turnout is extremely important for Democrats, and people continually dismissing their value will only harm that effort.

https://circle.tufts.edu/latest-research/half-youth-voted-2020-11-point-increase-2016

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago

No one is dismissing their value. It's exciting to see them energized. The youth vote has been trending up and that's awesome for many reasons. But we may need another election or two to see if it will hold or if it's a reaction to Trump that will revert to norms once he's gone.

If it holds, I think we are likely to see some changes in political calculus.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Maybe the party should continue to listen to them. That seems to be working.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago

This is the problem. You're demanding that young voters just naturally show up for multiple voting cycles before you think politicians should try to court them. Why on earth would you expect that to work? Would you expect that to work for black voters or women? Voter motivation doesn't rise and fall based on its own, it's something politicians actively work to inspire. It wasn't an accident that Obama had great turnout and Clinton had poor turnout.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

And yet they're excited right now because the party was responsive to their concerns.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Let's hope they stay excited.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Let's hope the party remains responsive, then.

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