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I'm starting to think this was a pre-planned bait and switch. Let MAGA and the Russian trolls waste thier energy and money going after Biden, painting him as old and senile. Then Kamala comes in and goes all scorched-earth on Trump.
Whether it was planned or not is not all that important though, the result is a thing of beauty.
It may be comforting to think that, but I reckon it genuinely took them by surprise just how unable he was to perform under pressure. He may be able to hold a normal conversation in a small room with a couple of people, but get the lights on him, him own voice being amplified around and a live broadcast, and the man just wasn't able to compete. He looked weak and old.
While Trump lives for that. He's a fucking gameshow host. His ideal dinner date would be himself, but louder. What he actually says is incoherent nonsense, but he's loud and aggressive and the MAGA hats lap that shit up.
Don't think that was pre planned. But I think waiting for Trump to officially accept the nomination as republican candidate was a deliberate move. The timing was almost too on the nose, and it seems some people already knew Biden was going to drop out before that.
Maybe this shit was all stewing in Kamalas head for years and she's just unloading off her chest lmao. But in truth I hope thus is the result of a competent team, cause I want this to keep coming. Fucking tired of being nice to Trump supporters after they acted like absolute pieces of shit for years.
I agree, that's absolutely plausible. I don't pretend to know enough to talk about likelyhoods and probability.
All that really matters is that the switch happened.
I don't think it was pre-planned until the terrible debate performance.
Having said that, I definitely think they timed his dropping out to be after the GOP convention, and even after the Sunday political shows. That timing was just too perfect to be a coincidence. The GOP spent the entire convention focusing on the wrong target. Then the Sunday politics shows happened. Then immediately after that came the announcement he was dropping out, and almost at the same time he was endorsing Kamala.
I suspect he knew he was dropping out weeks before he announced it, mainly because the way everybody endorsed Kamala has been so seamless. The democrats are famous for looking disorganized, and having their fights in public. I strongly suspect they went to many key democrats and did whatever wheeling and dealing was needed for them to endorse Kamala when Biden dropped out, while making sure to keep it quiet.
Because it's hard to keep secrets, it was probably a relatively small group of people who knew. But, I'd guess that at least 10 key democrats were informed early and brought on board.
I just had that thought yesterday because it surprised me how well this played out. Glad I am not the only one :)