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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

If they want to have a future, a lot more of them should get to feeling zero "meh" about voting for not donnie.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

They just showed the party what to do in order to get them excited to vote.

The party listened to their concerns, and they fell in line instantly. All the party has to do to get voter enthusiasm is to listen to the voters.

You don't get enthusiasm by ignoring people's concerns. That's how you get apathy and resentment.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm sure it has a bit to do with voters being especially loud about this issue.

I know I wrote both my dem senators (Warren and Market), my dem rep, and my dem governor (Healey), asking them to support Biden resigning a couple days after the debate. And I'm probably not alone on that.

[-] KevinAteMyPieIn1993@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

I mean, political donors pulling support of Biden after the debate did grease the wheels for that transition.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Yes, but look at what his exit accomplished. All the people who were saying that we should ignore the concerns of young people because they don't vote? Welp, young people are getting excited to vote because their concerns have been heard and addressed.

Compare this to where they were when Biden was refusing to step down.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Yes, I get why the party did what it did. Still - voting for someone based solely on something like age and color, when the alternative is donnie, is exceedingly reckless.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Do you think that's the reason? They're more likely to vote because the party abandoned its all too usual "Here's the candidate we like. Fuck you, you're voting like we tell you to because you have no choice lol." messaging.

Morale matters.

Do what the voters want and they'll vote for you. Not the ass-backwards "vote in perfect lockstep for us forever no matter what we do, and maybe someday we'll think about starting the process of evaluating giving tentative consideration to half a baby step towards something tangentially related to what you want, implemented over the course of 10 years" that was centrist conventional foolishness since at least 1992.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

You could argue the same thing about Kamala. Maybe even more so, to be honest.

I wanted Biden to step aside as well, but mostly because of the optics and narrative about "Biden so old" and low information voters like this.

[-] morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 4 months ago

Young people don't understand voter disenfranchisement, voter suppression, erosion of constitutional rights etc.

They just understand

[-] sweetpotato@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

Yeah I'm sure the party that brought them in the situation they are in to begin with is their only hope for a future. It definitely represents them and their interests and not the billionaires, hence not addressing any of the real pressing issues in the world that the new generation cares about.

[-] Machinist@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

That's a funny have hat you have. I've got a grey one I cut the label off. Refuse to be owned like that. You shouldn't be owned by someone. Make your way free. It's a fight. I tell you this with love.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Not sure I understand what you are saying here.

[-] Machinist@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Sorry! I poisoned myself on accident and was talking out of my head. Sorry if I caused offense.

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