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The impression I got from dabbling in fedora is that they highly push the flatpacks/snaps. I don't think the distro is very interested in having a centralized repo in the same way as debian or arch which are the two flavors I'm more framiliar with. They prefer this "immutable" model; it is a different thing. I didn't get it. But their repos are sparse, the GUI package manager is trash. I gave up due in main part to having to constantly install outside the package manager.
However that problem is highly contingent on my own use cases. If someone doesn't happen to need a lot of software which is missing in the system package manager, then it is not a problem for them. If it works, it works.
Ignoring all my ramblings too, welcome to linux!
It's not called immutable but instead "atomic" where the system is based on OCI image containers where upgrades take you from image A -> B and not updating individual packages.
Compared to Arch or Nix yeah but it can easily be extended with COPRs and RPMFusion.
Not their fault lol, you gotta take it up with GNOME Software/packagekit. I like KDE Discover though. The system package manager DNF4 is getting an upgrade next release which should make it significantly faster which was always a complaint with Fedora.
I solve this problem by installing Nix on top of Fedora, you can also install Nix (and then home-manager) on most Linux distros and it's a great way to get packages you want without polluting your system. It's honestly a better solution than trying to hunt for a native rpm/deb package. You could also install homebrew if you prefer that or distrobox.
I really like Fedora's 6 month release cycle (always stays on the ball with new features and changes) while not enforcing their view of the desktop (Ubuntu's snap model) on its users.
all the factual corrections here i think are correct; i didn't look anything up was just going from memory.
but
idk who is forcing them to use it without fixing for years? seems like they could have agency if they wanted to. good someone is improving it. speed is one thing. also configuration options, keyboard shortcuts, and not crashing 1/3 of the time would be good. but I'm done with fedora I gave it an honest try. lots of people like it so there must be something to it, just not for me. which is part of what's great for linux--- you don't have to suffer other people's tastes.
well if it works for you then it works. sounds kind of elaborate for a beginner. i think nix is absolutely perfect for certain users; i might end up there one day. (after i learn emacs.)
now that you remind me, i think distrobox is actually their recommended method. i got bored/lost in the documentation of that and didn't get it functional. tho i understand it works well once you get the hang of it. then you have unlimited possibilities.
This is only true in Fedora Silverblue (Gnome) or Kinoite (KDE). There is no immutability component to a normal installation of Fedora.