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J.D. Vance, Father of Biracial Kids, Endorses Trump’s Race Rant: ‘Totally Reasonable’
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It's pointing out how much of a hypocrite he is.
Honestly it makes it feel like that’s the most relevant part of the matter and I don’t care for that. It’s wrong because it’s wrong, not because he’s being a hypocrite. That’s secondary and propping up his kids as if that’s what makes it wrong doesn’t seem like the best approach to me.
It kind of is the most relevant part of pointing how and why he's a hypocrite.
So is the problem that he’s being racist defending another racist for racist remarks or that he’s a hypocrite? Because one is definitely worse to me than the other.
It's both, in combination. He's being racist, and he has kids with an Indian woman. Leaving out that part would be a glaring omission to the story.
It's very much like the stories of the Republicans who want to make abortion illegal, which is bad enough, but it's monumentally worse when it turns out they've had or paid for abortions.
Yeah I think it’s because it kinda implies he doesn’t see his kids as being welcome to both of their ethnic heritages. And from what I’ve heard from half white friends it’s an awkward thing they often experience. Like I had a friend growing up who everyone was willing to acknowledge that he’s Filipino, but nobody was willing to acknowledge that he was equally hillbilly.
Once again, one is definitely worse than the other. The headline makes it sound like this hinges on his having biracial kids. That’s not the right message
I think you're the only one taking it as "hinging on." Most people are taking it as "Person is against X but also chose X" (where X itself is a bad thing). Headline makes it clear he's both a racist and a hypocrite. Both are important to know.
If the thought occurred to me then I’m probably not the only person who thought, which means it’s a valid critique of the headline.
That's an impressive way of sticking to your guns when everyone is disagreeing with you. "If I thought it then others did, so I'm not wrong."
It’s not a matter of being “right” or “wrong.” If a headline causes ambiguity or people to question the thrust then it needs to be improved. It’s not a yes/no situation. It’s an iterative process. You’re the one trying to make this a binary.
Removed, civility.
So never call these assholes out is what you're saying.
I’m not sure where you got that from but don’t let that stop you from going after me. Let it out
You're defending him by telling everyone not to point out how he's a hypocrite. That's where I got it from.
Please read the other conversations I’ve had with far more reasonable people capable of engaging in nuance.
Your problem is the headline. And you've now tried arguing against it many many times. You've even said multiple times that "I don't know why".
That's ridiculous. If you're that shallow I could care less about what you've said with other people while you, let my my notes here... ah yes. While you've criticized just the headline and nothing from the article, which I'm 100% sure you haven't even bothered to read.
1 - I did read it, and asserting I didn’t when you have no evidence is shitty. But why let evidence or sources get in the way of an Internet hissy fit?
2 - You seem to care enough to keep responding, but you also strike me as the kind of person who really, really values having the last word. Let’s see what happens!
Personally I’m out and will be blocking you either way. Have a nice life, truly. That is the only non-sarcastic part of this comment.
Block away sweet ignorent princess. Block away.