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Trump is not only bad for the country, he's bad for the Republican party and Conservatism as well. Trump has kicked out nearly every sane Republican and continues to attack anyone who even barely stands up to him.
Worse, Trumps attacks and mood is random. He's an angry demented old man who backstabs any movement the moment it seems politically advantageous to do so. Be it Right or Left, Trumps overwhelming plan is this chaos.
We cannot even vote for a Speaker, write up a Platform or attract good candidates like Jon Huntsman anymore. We are 10+ years unable to pick a Speaker of the House or support them. Is this really the party of the future?
The sooner Trump is defeated, the sooner we can rebuild the party and start doing good for America again.
We cannot remain the party of Fiscal Responsibility through massive Tax Cuts anymore. We need a real plan, a real political identity and not one that immediately contradicts itself outside of Trumps cult of personality.
I am no fan of conservatism but it's nice to see a level headed conservative in the wild. Since we're stuck with this two party bullshit I would love to see a functional Republican party who can compromise with Democrats and move the Overton window left.
Actually my real dream is for the party to implode, and the Democrats become the conservative party and then there's an actual left party as the other. I'm sure you'd like the conservative Democrats. They're like the Republicans were 40 years ago.
I always wonder - these "level headed conservatives" - voted for Trump anyhow right? Were they frantically writing letters to their representatives asking them to stop turning their party into a racist authoritarian laughingstock these past few years?
Nah. I'll die of old age before I could be convinced to trust a Republican, and I will never again miss any election, from local on up, to ensure that I vote for anyone, anyone at all, who isn't a Republican.
I live in an entirely Democrat-run state. There's no Republican for me to write anything for.
When you live in Democrat-only land, it becomes easier to see the flaws and why a 2nd option is important.
Democrat Governor, 2x Democrat Senators, Democrat Representative, Democrat Mayor, Democrat Board of Education, Democrats on the judiciary, etc. etc.
I never voted Trump. Even in 2016 I saw he was shitty. But McCain was a reasonable option vs Obama and the Ukrainian War proves Obama's folly in foreign policy and inexperience. McCain in 2012 could have prevented a lot of problems.
I'll allow that you are a unicorn, but clearly folks are voting for the crazies, and I doubt many of them are doing so while also asking them to be less crazy.
A large number of Republicans are pissed at Trump but are begrudgingly going to vote for him.
Nearly my entire Republican social circle is 'I don't like Trump but ...'
Which there is a degree of bullshit here no doubt. But at least some of them have to be telling the truth about their feelings.
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The good news is that the 'But...' is 'But Hunter Bidens Laptop's, or 'But Hilary Clintons Emails'.
Very few are actually admitting to 'But DEI hire' or other Kamala attacks. Honestly, the Trump Campaigns insults are completely flat vs Kamala. Even amongst Republicans in my experience.
The thing about Republicans is that we are open about bluster vs closed door politics. You can't necessarily pay attention to what people bluster openly.
That is good to hear, thank you!
Trump may be the worst, but he is not the only bad egg in the GOP. If the GOP was a car, it would have been deemed totaled years ago. Time to start over.
He is a petulant child that acts as spoiled as he was the day he entered the world. I am sick of hearing his rambling requests as if they help anyone other than himself.