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I keep being told that not a single Palestinian protestor is anti Semitic.
Whatever gave you that impression? I can't see nazis being on the side of Israel. There's probably complexity on views but defacing a concentration camp jew is missing the mark by a lot.
Actually plenty of Nazis are pro Israel, it might even be the default position. Israel can be both a place to send Jewish people to get them out of your country and an example to hold up of successful ethno nationalism. On top of that Nazis would revel in the deaths of Palestinians, the bigotry of Nazis extends further than antisemitism.
Do you have a source for that? Because antisemitism seems to be a core tenant of nazism according to everything I can find.
Also nazis, due to this antisemitism, seem to view Muslims as natural allies, see how neonazis celebrated 9-11 around the world (except in the USA) or this quote:
"...we could have emancipated the Moslem countries dominated by France...All Islam vibrated at the news of our victories...created a feeling of malaise among our Islamic friends..." Adolf Hitler. Last will and Testament.
When they were still figuring out what people would publicly accept, the Nazis mostly favored deportation/displacement genocide rather than outright extermination.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan
They were, of course, extremely aware that Madagascar could not support the entire Jewish population, but that was most of the point. Anti-semite support of Israel is not about liking Jewish people, it's about gathering the diaspora into one place so it's easier to kill them. Toss in a little Revelations-prophecy for Christian fundie flavor depending on the brand of Nazi.
That sounds more like 'outright extermination' than 'displacement' to me but ok.
I see you're not the oc but as someone defending their point I'll ask again, do you have any sources on these 'plenty of pro-Israel Nazis'?
Who said anything about Nazis? The reality is that anti-semitism is not a uniquely European problem. Especially not with Israel's actions
I just gave one example, that's all
I can't help but think you're being wilfully ignorant in a contrived attempt at making a nonsense point.
You kids all talk the same. I can picture exactly what you look like. Don't insist over and over that there's no anti Semitism mixed into this protest, and then get mad and call people ignorant when they point at it for you. Fix that shit, expel those fucks from your protests, instead of bitching to me online. Do something about it. And if you're not part of these protests and all you do for the cause is sit online and bitch, shut the fuck up. Cause you're not part of any of this. My children under 12 have suffered anti Semitism recently for being proud to be half Jewish. And I'm out there with teachers and city councillors trying to make changes so these protest stay on point and don't veer off into bullshit.
What are you doing?
Why are you treating pro Palestinian people as a monolith? Learn to think critically and realize no protest can somehow rid itself of all shitty people. You're being unreasonable and weirdly condescending because you're older and somehow think it's cool to talk down to folks based on age.
Have I insisted there's no anti-Semitism among the pro-Palestinian movement? No? Then why are you claiming I've insisted there's no anti-Semitism? If I see or hear an anti-Semite in the pro-Palestinian, I would call that person/those people out, as I have in the past. Is that so hard to understand?
Also very weird that you're all "I can picture what you look like". You're being way too presumptuous and that's why you feel so confidently incorrect.
You sound like those people who were more upset about the riots and looting than the fact that police were killing unarmed men.
If you see this as a pro anything move, you got a problem
It's clearly pro Palestinian. Whether it is antisemitic is an issue of perspective but I can see that I am on the minority here and I don't really feel the need to convince you so Ill just accept that you disagree and leave it there