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Love learning that 'it was a different time' has and was always a deflection of how awful people have been throughout history and that I can and should apply lessons learned in this day and age to the past.
If I manage to have children, I'm going to be a lib teachers nightmare by giving my kids ammo like this, showing that while uncommon, it wasn't unheard of for decent people throughout history to call out the bullshit.
That saying has struck me as silly for a long time since there was a very large and obvious group that wasn't a fan of slavery back then - The slaves
Yep. Always taught this or that was the norm and yada yada yada. Like I get that, but we were never taught anything like this, perhaps out of ignorance because whatever they were taught excluded numerous progressive figures, or imo, didn't want to teach about those who challenge the status quo, unless they're sufficiently whitewashed and defanged.
Yep, it's a position that requires the person saying it to deny the humanity and agency of the actual people who are most affected
Multiple founding fathers were abolitionists. IIRC Ben Franklin, John Adams, and Thomas Payne were the main advocates against slavery in the constitution (some were even against the 3/5ths compromise).
The debate over the morality stretches back to ancient Greece. Spartans and Athenians would argue over it. We've always known it was wrong, but some people want to own slaves anyway and have to bend over backwards to justify it.