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this post was submitted on 09 Aug 2024
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Sure but without moderation you're left with a Nazi echo-chamber. When there's no mechanism to kick out the Nazis, most normal people will leave over time. A platform that allows Nazis just becomes a Nazi platform.
You can go even broader. Its not only nazis and pedophiles. Every toxic behavior. If you dont have moderation, I can post pucs of dead children, gore and any phobia all day long and you can block me but you cant block the thousand bots I control (just an example, not real).
Moderation is evidently necessary, the amount is the point of discussion. People who despise moderation are either ignorant or toxic. Either they dont care about others having a reasonably pleasant experience without getting shit thrown at them or they like to throw it.
The internet and globalization has one major downside: we live in very different realities and some of us have very different needs than others. We dont belong in the same room all the time. We should be able to meet but we also need our space to be among our own. Thats why we have women‘s day in the public pools and certain other „discriminating“ measures. To keep folks safe and let them have fun.
Yeah I agree for the most part. I will say I think moderation can have problems though (example: Reddit for a while did that thing where they would ban 1 fascist subreddit for inciting violence against minorities and then also ban 10 leftist subreddits for people saying John Brown was based).
But I think it depends on how the platform is designed and how moderation is implemented. Lemmy's implementation is some of the best I've seen.
But I do agree, some form of moderation is necessary.
I fully agree with your argument and it was implied in what I wrote. Of course moderation can and will have flaws. It is the extremes that just never work.
You mean Twitter ? which every liberal, leftist and their grandma still using it, despite it turning into a Nazi platform
Yeah, I think the amount of non-fascist people has gone down since Musk bought Twitter. I anticipate it will continue with that trend. The process is not instant, especially when the platform is as pervasive as Twitter. But I think Twitter is a good demonstration of why moderation is a good thing.
And yeah, moderation is often not implemented in a perfect way. But I think Lemmy's transparency (mod logs) approach is an improvement over traditional moderation.