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Tim Walz is giving MAGA a master class in manhood
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Honestly, I see Walz as a strong and empathetic dad figure, and Harris as a firm but joyful mom figure for a lot of Americans who had shit parental figures growing up.
They make an excellent team.
While Trump is the weird granddad who really went off the deep end, and Vance the creepy uncle who you don't trust leaving alone in your home with your couch.
I'm pretty tolerant of other people's beliefs, but I draw the line at people who sodomize couches. /s :)
Hetero-sectionals scare me.
I see Harris as that goofy kind hearted aunt. She might not connect with you all the time, but you know she means well. Walz is definitely more like the dad that Americans wish they grew up with.
I don't treat politicians like family members. I'm not interested in that.
I want boring politics. I want them to not fucking be in the news every time they sneeze. I want kids to get lunches. I want Americans to be able to live a comfortable life. I want immigrants to become Americans and conservative terrorism to get fucked.
I don't want a cool aunt figure and I'm not interested in putting any of these politicians as a hat slogan or a flag.
Fuck Trump and I'm voting for Harris. But don't get it twisted...
this is my analysis of the running candidates right now, but Kamala is the urbanite minority runner, walz is the rural white runner. Kamala has lots of experience in urban environments and dealing with large companies and corpos, walz has a lot of experience supporting individuals and families and has many years in rural Midwestern politics.
kamala is more visibly younger, walz is visibly older, but they're both essentially 60. Kamala picks up the votes of the younger millenials and gen z's while walz picks up the votes of the gen x and boomer populations who resonate with his values.
Kamala should represent basically every large population center, cali, new york, probably not chicago, but they'll probably vote for her anyway, etc...
Walz is basically courting the entire midwestern vote by being midwestern, as well as rural, more moderate/center leaning voters.
This is quite literally the avengers team of the democratic party right now. I don't think you could have made a better team.
Idk I’m a zennial and Walz hits right in the Midwest of it all. I’d be voting for Kamala for sure and I’m excited for a female president, especially one that isn’t Hillary, but to my young urban Midwestern tendencies walz feels like a guy who’d brag about how cheap his couch was before making a quip about it not being cheap enough to fuck Vance. He feels more Ohioan than Vance for certain.
yeah i can see that, but the midwestern pride for me hits a little too strongly for me to care what he's like other than "vaguely midwestern" lol
I'm from Appalachia and he appeals to me on an emotional level. My dad was barely in the picture, and this guy seems like the dad I always wished I had.
The funny thing that was mentioned above is he will appeal to more centrist people, and I think that's true even though his politics seem to be actually left of Kamala.
And the greatest living politician in national office endorsed him before he was picked.
I agree with everything you've said, the optics and the "feels" are at an all time high.
That said, a lot of reporting is saying that the choice of VP doesn't have a significant impact on election day.
IDK how that can really be true though. For the next several months Walz will be shaping the public's opinion of Kamala. Obviously on election day people will vote for Kamala or Trump, but Walz can convince people to vote for Kamala.
yeah historically that's the case, but trump also literally picked a candidate willing to overthrow democracy as well. I think it matters more this time, because historically VP picks are almost always swing state candidates, because they generally have a lot of pull in either direction. In this case, it breaks that norm, and i think as long as it influences voters enough now, and they continue campaigning together up until the election, it should help to energize voters quite a bit.
Walz is a really good public speaker, and so is kamala, having them play off of each other is only going to further improve things IMO.
Usually true that they don't have much of an impact. But there are outliers. At one time in my youth there were two Republicans that I respected. Colin Powell and John McCain. I lost that respect for Powell when he went on TV and lied to get us into Iraq war 2.
But to the point, I lost my respect for John McCain when he took Sarah Palin as his running mate. We'll never know but it very well could have cost him the election.
Speaking of shit parents, I think it's relevant that they're the first non-boomer candidates (Biden technically isn't but he's close) since '92.
Just like a millennial is any adult, boomer is now anybody who looks like they need to be in a retirement home. And Biden is absolutely it.
Unfortunately Walz has Boomer look about him. But hopefully he's cool boomer.
Generations are roughly 20 years or so. 92-24 is 32 years.
Its pretty reasonable that over the course of that time, we would move away from the previous generations, finally into Gen X. I would expect this the last time someone from before GenX would be elected, strictly because they will all age out soon.
As someone with a milquetiast go-along-to-get-along father and a born-again "christian " mother...yup.