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what is the practical application of that information? it's to keep society safe and functioning. in an ideal world, this wouldn't be necessary but china has 1.3 billion people and remains one of the safest nations on earth for a reason. you don't see police constantly brutalizing people there, because their network of cameras and identification means that unless something presents an immediate threat, they can typically just let the person do their shit and then catch them at home. you can't drive ten miles in america without seeing someone pulled over by police for some minor traffic violation- is that freedom, was that interaction necessary? what about the odds of that interaction escalating to the citizen being murdered by police? this isn't an issue in china because firstly the police are trained and secondly many of those interactions are entirely eliminated
america knows all that about me too but i can still get mugged walking a mile to the gas station and i'll still see 5 homeless people along the way and multiple cops just posted up waiting to fuck with someone
i used to be an anarchist. idealistic thinking isn't realistic.
sorry, i wasn't aware i was talking to a vaushite.
I had to look this up
now that you know what that is, consider what views you're espousing if you are indistinguishable from them. it's western propaganda, complete blindness to your own material reality, anarkiddie bullshit. "i'm not an idealist, but i'd rather die than live in a dictatorship". comrade what do you think capitalism is? it doesn't matter which supposedly superior western nation you live in, you are in a capitalist dictatorship- refer to what i said about "complete blindness to your own material reality".
your post literally reads like "i can go to walmart and buy a tv on credit, how can you say i'm not free?"
yeah, that's not a bad thing. i really think you have a lot of unlearning of western propaganda to do.
comrade, i mean no disrespect- i was an anarchist when i was a baby leftist as well. in an ideal world, and purely speaking ideologically, i am an anarchist. i would love if the world operated entirely free of any sort of state, if any sort of hierarchy was able to be examined and dismantled if need be
but i realize that the modern world is much more complicated than the answers anarchism provides
the only way to achieve communism, even if we're talking entirely stateless communism, is to seize the state and use it as a vehicle to enact the will of the revolution. i am genuinely curious how you expect it to be done otherwise? let's say antifa just shot joe brandon and took over the white house. okay, now what? they just declare amerikkka is over? come on.
I'm an anarcho syndicalist, I belive that we can build workers syndicates and communities where the workers own the means of production and only when we have those organisations we can even begin to think of overthrowing the state
okay, simply put; the state is entirely controlled by capital. we live in a dictatorship of capital- this is a basically irrefutable fact for any sect of leftist.
with that being said, let's say you do start taking over workplaces, building communities around those workplaces which the workers took over; what is the state going to be doing while all of this happens? even if you take over by entirely 'legitimate' electoral and peaceful means.
amazon workers can't even go on strike without someone getting their skull cracked. you can't demonstrate against genocide without being beaten half to death.
what has the state done in the past when workers even went on strike?
Then they bring their bombs and cops and kill you for being a terrorist, what then
okay, but that isn't happening nor will it ever happen. this is why anarkiddies are called that. someone presents you with an actual situation which does happen (workers try to strike, get their skulls cracked) and you respond "hypothetically if i were doing MY anarchist communism i would bring a gun to the strike". come on.
Advancing standards of living by leaps and bounds? Taking literal dirt farming feudal serfdoms to literally the world's first space power in the span of literally 4 decades? Ending cyclical patterns of famine that have occurred for thousands of years, but never again under communism?
Oh man so awful
You're the kinda guy who would hear about China building "ghost cities" and just believe the lies that they're building useless shit to juice their GDP, aren't you